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identity confusion

Post by topseaturvy » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:23 pm

According to my bill of sale and the manuals that came with the boat with pictures in the manual showing my boat it is a 1985 37 ft or 11 meter, sedan. So no helm in the salon only on the bridge. My question is why do I have a "Trojan 400" decal on the outside of the sliding windows of my salon? Also on the sides of the bridge enclosure on both sides is a pot metal ( probably aluminium) badge that says "Trojan International" if that means anything.

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Re: identity confusion

Post by prowlersfish » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:49 am

Sounds like what you have is Trojan International 11 meter , But they did make a Trojan 400 in the early 80s that was not a Trojan International
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Re: identity confusion

Post by topseaturvy » Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:54 am

Yes prowlersfish, it's the model with the red canvas. At the bottom of the tinted sliding window, there is a black vinyl strip about 4 inches high that basically goes along the bottom of all the windows. The Trojan 400 lettering is laser engraved into that strip of black vinyl with a silver shading.

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Re: identity confusion

Post by BeaconMarineBob » Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:03 pm

There are two 400s the old one was a F-40 motor yacht the other 400 is 12 Meter express.

Post a picture of this 400 decal and we can tell you if it is something that Trojan ever used.

If you have a 11 meter it is not a Model 400.

Look for the Hull number on a aluminum plate the size of a credit card. It will be on the AC / DC / Gen Panel

It will have a number that is three number followed by four numbers. First four number are the Model
Four number the year and last three the Hull number

Post the number and we will decode it for you.
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Re: identity confusion

Post by topseaturvy » Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:59 pm

The numbers on that tag are 731-5017. After about 30 minutes of scratching my head trying to figure out how I would let you see a picture I took of that decal, I've given up. I don't think there are enough years left in my life to jump through all the hoops for that on here. Anywhere else on the internet it's such a simple process of clicking on that paper clip icon and in seconds the process is complete. The letter font style is a square black letter with rounded corners and the grey shading is to the right. All upper case letters and the J doesn't have a horizontal line across the top. Similar to the font style used here. It definitely looks like it was done at the factory.

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Re: identity confusion

Post by prowlersfish » Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:16 pm

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Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:59 pm
The numbers on that tag are 731-5017. After about 30 minutes of scratching my head trying to figure out how I would let you see a picture I took of that decal, I've given up. I don't think there are enough years left in my life to jump through all the hoops for that on here. Anywhere else on the internet it's such a simple process of clicking on that paper clip icon and in seconds the process is complete. The letter font style is a square black letter with rounded corners and the grey shading is to the right. All upper case letters and the J doesn't have a horizontal line across the top. Similar to the font style used here. It definitely looks like it was done at the factory.
Its easy , can you email mail me the photo I can post I will sent you a pm .
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Re: identity confusion

Post by prowlersfish » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:10 pm

topseaturvy wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:59 pm
The numbers on that tag are 731-5017. After about 30 minutes of scratching my head trying to figure out how I would let you see a picture I took of that decal, I've given up. I don't think there are enough years left in my life to jump through all the hoops for that on here. Anywhere else on the internet it's such a simple process of clicking on that paper clip icon and in seconds the process is complete. The letter font style is a square black letter with rounded corners and the grey shading is to the right. All upper case letters and the J doesn't have a horizontal line across the top. Similar to the font style used here. It definitely looks like it was done at the factory.
Here it is . Do you have some of the whole boat ?
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Re: identity confusion

Post by BeaconMarineBob » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:41 am

Do you have a aluminum tag that looks like this ?

Also a picture would really help ID you boat
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Re: identity confusion

Post by prowlersfish » Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:34 pm

Very Nice Boat IMO the Decals were added
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Re: identity confusion

Post by topseaturvy » Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:55 pm

That's really quite puzzling if that decal was added later. I mean what would be the intent? As you can make out if you look closely at the last two pictures. The windows are tinted very dark. Then there is a black band about 4 inches high which appears to be your typical adhesive vinyl. Then a space above that wide band about maybe 1/2" and then another strip above that which is about 1/4" wide also in black vinyl. These 2 vinyl bands go along the bottom of all the windows, lincluding the front ones as well. As I look close at the decal, I'm realizing that the grey shading is actually the only part that makes up the lettering and it's laid on top of the black.

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Re: identity confusion

Post by prowlersfish » Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:09 pm

People do strange things , Guess someone liked the look or sound of "Trojan 400" :D
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Re: identity confusion

Post by topseaturvy » Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:22 pm

Haha, yeah makes the boat seem longer. Just what the marina likes to see with their "stretchy" tape measures when they calculate the boats length for moorage rates. haha

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Re: identity confusion

Post by El L Sea » Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:46 pm

topseaturvy wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:22 pm
Haha, yeah makes the boat seem longer. Just what the marina likes to see with their "stretchy" tape measures when they calculate the boats length for moorage rates. haha
In Florida, marinas are doing away with the tape, and charging based on the slip size, not the boat size.
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Re: identity confusion

Post by prowlersfish » Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:55 am

El L Sea wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:46 pm
topseaturvy wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:22 pm
Haha, yeah makes the boat seem longer. Just what the marina likes to see with their "stretchy" tape measures when they calculate the boats length for moorage rates. haha
In Florida, marinas are doing away with the tape, and charging based on the slip size, not the boat size.
They are doing that around here in Va . Our marina changed to slip length a few years back . This is on slip leases . Transients still go by boat length . They ( our marina ) normally take the owners word . Only seen the tape out once when a "30 footer" tape out to over 40 . Many places on the ICW charge you for every foot , plat form to anchor .
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Re: identity confusion

Post by topseaturvy » Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:26 am

In my marina it's whatever is longer. So if you're boat is 38 foot long overall and you're in a 40 ft slip you get charged for 40 feet. If you are 42 feet overall in that same slip you get charged for 42 ft. Many of us back in and tuck the dinghy along side the bow and between the dock. If it sticks out past the furthest point on the bow of the boat you get charged an extra foot or whatever it is. They actually routinely do checks.

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