39 express information requested

Dave 39 express · Post by **Dave 39 express** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:00 pm

Hi I am looking at purchasing a 39 express. What can anyoneone tell me about
This vessel. I want to know the good and bad....mostly the bad or what to watch
out for. Twin 454 crusaders. Olan generator. Windlass, garmin GPS plotter, auto pilot,
1 owner. 13.6 beam 19000 lbs.
Like to know about handling, maintenance issues, general problems
that year and modle are known for.
Thanks in advance for all your help

500 hrs on the engine always stred inside in heated storage fresh water only

Dave 39 express · Post by **Dave 39 express** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:07 pm

It is a 1996

Dave 39 express · Post by **Dave 39 express** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:07 pm

It is a 1996

ready123 · Post by **ready123** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:53 pm

Is that the Carver built Trojan label??

alexander38 · Post by **alexander38** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:58 am

ready123 wrote:Is that the Carver built Trojan label??

June 1992...Carver's parent Co. bought Trojan....

I've been a couple of Express boats, they are real nice boats and everyone loves them.. And they've held the value well..suggest you do a web search for the 390 & 440 Trojan by Carver you'll find info from forums

Allen Sr · Post by **Allen Sr** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:59 am

1996? I believe it is.

Dave 39 express · Post by **Dave 39 express** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:47 am

It is Carver built Bertram hull

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:55 am

Not a Bertram hull . thats brokers talking still a great hull

No Trojan used a Bertram hull all marketing with the name .

zdek · Post by **zdek** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:36 am

Those are nice boats, and very well appointed - especially for their 'vintage'. I have several friends with these boats and they love them, with a few exceptions. Some of the fittings / wiring / switches are suspect on these and can be problematic. Not to say run from it, but be diligent.

These are essentially Carvers with the Trojan name on them. I don't think they were built in Lancaster.

Good luck with your purchase. Get it surveyed and enjoy the boat!

todd brinkerhoff · Post by **todd brinkerhoff** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:57 am

Bertram not being involved in the Trojan hull design is not 100% correct. All Trojans built prior to 1991 had Trojan designed hulls, to include the famous Delta Conic. In 1990, Trojan contracted with Bertram designer David Napier to design a new boat, the 10.8 Meter Express. Less than 20 of those boats were made before Trojan was bought out by Carver . Carver used the 10.8 M design with some modifications for their 370, 390, and 400 series. The Carver made "Trojan 440" was actually completely designed by Italian designer Fulvio De Simoni.

I don't know what boat you are specifically asking about, and it was not made by Trojan.

http://www.trojanboats.net/wforum/viewt ... highlight=

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:12 pm

k9th · Post by **k9th** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:22 pm

Welcome to the forum Dave.

The guy right acrossed the dock from me has the same boat and loves it. Unfortunately, I won't see him till late spring when we get our boats in the water so can't ask him about issues.

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:40 pm

todd brinkerhoff wrote:Bertram not being involved in the Trojan hull design is not 100% correct. All Trojans built prior to 1991 had Trojan designed hulls, to include the famous Delta Conic. In 1990, Trojan contracted with Bertram designer David Napier to design a new boat, the 10.8 Meter Express. Less than 20 of those boats were made before Trojan was bought out by Carver . Carver used the 10.8 M design with some modifications for their 370, 390, and 400 series. The Carver made "Trojan 440" was actually completely designed by Italian designer Fulvio De Simoni.=[/url]

I believe the F boats we in house design , The meter boats hull ( delta Conic ) was not a Trojan design . It was done by Harry Schoell . The 10.8 Hull designed by David Napier is a hull by David Napier Not IMO making it a Bertram Hull , The Famous Bertram Hull was designed by Ray Hunt .
Not Being a Bertram is Not a bad thing at all .( the new hulsl are having Big issues )

to the OP
The 390 along with the other Trojans Built by Carver are First class boats and well made . Truly worthy of the Trojan name .

The only negative thing I have heard , was something with the large engine Vent allowing water to enter . every thing else was positive and thats why they are a sought are boat

Almost forgot welcome to the forum .

alexander38 · Post by **alexander38** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:09 pm

Dave 39 express wrote:It is Carver built Bertram hull

This is used by brokers and guys that want to build up the boats rep. Whitaker owned Bert,Carver and Trojan at the same time so it's used as a selling point....

1995 390 express · Post by **1995 390 express** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:11 pm

hi dave welcome- i bought a 1995 last season and as of yet i only used it as a floating condo. i'm in the middle of rebuilding quite a bit of her due to neglect. the boat is solid and very easy to work on in all aspects as far as engine room compartment and all plumbing in bilges etc. i have been told they handle well and manuver well also. love the open concept layout and its comftable. can't give more info till she sails this may but if your getting a good deal i don't think you can go wrong. good luck