1987 10 meter mid cabin complete restoration.

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1987 10 meter mid cabin complete restoration.

Post by yorklyn » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:54 pm

Hello everyone. It has been a few years since I posted on the site. I am knee deep in a total restoration on my 10 meter. I found out the stringers were completly rotted out from the limber holes never being sealed at the factory. I began the project about three years ago. the stringers were cut out and new ones were glassed in and its been sitting in my shop for two years after my father had an accident and died 50 feet from the boat. I have decided its time to get back on it and finish her. I plan on posting my progress and look forward to getting her back together.
Here is what she looked like two weeks before before I ripped her apart.

http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg14 ... =slideshow
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Post by yorklyn » Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:00 pm

Heres some pics of the stringer rot and removal.

http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg14 ... ger%20rot/
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Post by yorklyn » Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:03 pm

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Post by Paul » Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:04 pm

Nice boat. Hope you get her back together soon. Sorry to hear about your father. Was he involved in the project?
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Post by jefflaw35 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:19 pm

very sorry to hear about your father, i am new to these boats, i feel bad even having to ask a ?? i to and in a restore but im not good with the terms yet, stringer? i know everyones laughing at me by now. is this where the glass turns in and overlaps to for a 90 structure? sorry i even had to ask, but you are fixing something that i may over look on mine. i feel horrible. im sure your father is looking down on you with great joy and guidance....

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Post by yorklyn » Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:38 pm

Replaced gas tank platform. (just finished this today)

http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg14 ... 20rebuild/
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Post by yorklyn » Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:53 pm

Thanks Jeff. stringers are the "spine "of the boat. on my boat they were constructed with two sheets of plywood laminated together then wrapped in fiberglass. when thet cut "drain" holes to allow trapped water to flow down to the bilge pump they simply painted the exposed wood instead of sealing it. my stringers were completly rotted away.
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Post by yorklyn » Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:56 pm

Misc pics of the gutted interior. Still have alittle more demo to do but im trying to get the bilge done first

http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg14 ... %20before/
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Post by jefflaw35 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:05 pm

damn i think im starting to get it, and to think i can put your car back to gather after a 80 mph wreck...uhg.... maybe im over looking it to hard. i see platforms where interior peices screwed into the fiberglass structure bends, i was scared they were to deep of screws, but maybe wood is in there, these are stingers? i would say where im thinking of is strucural areas like a spine. is a stringer one spot or several? damn i feel like an idiot. i should google huh? lol every screw i take out i scared i may poke a hole in the haul when i put it back

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Post by aaronbocknek » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:46 am

jefflaw35 wrote:damn i think im starting to get it, and to think i can put your car back to gather after a 80 mph wreck...uhg.... maybe im over looking it to hard. i see platforms where interior peices screwed into the fiberglass structure bends, i was scared they were to deep of screws, but maybe wood is in there, these are stingers? i would say where im thinking of is strucural areas like a spine. is a stringer one spot or several? damn i feel like an idiot. i should google huh? lol every screw i take out i scared i may poke a hole in the haul when i put it back
yes jeff, the stringers are what gives the vessel her internal 'bone structure' so to speak. google is a great tool, and NEVER feel that you are asking too many questions buddy. that's what we are here for. if you don't know, ask. no one is going to laugh at you or put you down for not knowing. that is how we all learned about our boats. there are books a plenty on basic boat maintenance and they are valuable tools. but, in the long run, proper planning, slow your pace down, a pad of paper to draw diagrams of what you have and a digital camera to document something BEFORE you tear it apart....all good things to have. so, when shall i hop a plane and come down to help? i'm ready and able.
oh, and ALWAYS have containers to put hardware in that is removed and can be saved. screws have a tendency to just vanish! :)
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Post by RWS » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:02 am

Hi Todd,

Haven't seen you around here for awhile.

Condolences on your dad.

Although boats are inatimate objects, lots of memories are made on them. I hope you both had an opportunity to enjoy some time together on her.

Last we exchanged e-mails you were just starting this project. I had NO IDEA it would end up being so extensive!

With everything being done RIGHT, why not consider dropping in a couple of 4 or 6 cylinder diesels now?

Would make a totally awesome vessel.

Here's a link.

http://www.boattest.com/resources/view_ ... ewsID=3361

and another article

http://www.boattest.com/Resources/view_ ... ewsID=3790

Glad you're bacjk and will be enjoying her soon.

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Re: 1987 10 meter mid cabin complete restoration.

Post by alexander38 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:14 am

looks like you went back to ply-wood ? is there a reason ?
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Post by yorklyn » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:08 am

aaronbocknek is totally correct about taking lots of pictures and lableing and storing fastners. When I started I took very accurate measurements of stringer and bulkhead locations as well as exact measurments of the location of the engine mounts on the stringers. I have failed in the "lableing and storing" fastner department. if it was specific, un common hardware i labled and stored it but most general fastners ended up all over the place. I plan on replacing most but still should have labled for reference.
Don't be overly concerned about running a fastner too far through a hull. Take it from someone who had a a waterfountain sprout in the bilge of his first boat 1977 F28 trojan when he was was told by 3 people that the 1 inch screws that came with the new bilge pump were not too long! I drilled a pilot hole about 1/2 deep before the bit went through the bottom. the wife freaked, grabed some 5200 caulk and a larger screw and "patched" it. I fixed it correctly in the fall when the boat was pulled.
Just remember:
Fiberglass can be repaired.
if you pay someone to work on your boat they will screw it up worse than you 7 out of 10 times. (no attention to detail)
part of the "fun" with a boat is learning her inside and out and personalizing her to your liking.
start slow, take your time, measure 3 times before you cut or drill and have fun.
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Post by yorklyn » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:30 am

RWS,
I can't tell you how many times i've thought of repowering with diesels! I'm still not sure exactly what i'll do with the engines. the crusaders that i pulled were origional with somewhere around 1500 to 2000 hours on them but they ran great. The base cost for the diesels is huge (as Im sure you know!) but the less than stellar performance and fuel economy of the gas engines is hard to swallow. I've been looking around alittle trying to find some low hour yanmars but dont want to buy someone elses problem. and the added cost of the struts, shafts and props. I figure with me doing most of the prep myself It would run around $40 to $45k to have a mechanic rig the diesels up for me (depending on the inital cost of the engines).
Total rebuilds of my engines would be somewhere around 8-10k
Freshing up my existing engines 4-6k
brand new engines 26-29k.

As I'm completly in over my head with everything at this point, I'm taking it one step at a time. I figure I can do the majority of the repairs without commiting myself to any particular power plant at this time. as I get closer I'll have to make the decission.
kind of makes that whole "sailboat thing" make more sense!!!
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Post by prowlersfish » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:37 am

yorklyn wrote:RWS,
I can't tell you how many times i've thought of repowering with diesels!
Total rebuilds of my engines would be somewhere around 8-10k
Freshing up my existing engines 4-6k
brand new engines 26-29k.
opps
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