Are they REALLY new engines? And more.....

Commissionpoint · Post by **Commissionpoint** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:50 pm

prowlersfish wrote:How can anyone call a boat a Pig with out seeing it ?

Hmm. Lets see.......

No clean-up after carpet install, unsecured bilge pumps. rats nests of wiring, no chafe protection on the pumpout line and wrong hose used in install, loose hot water tank with securing bands on sole nearby, lies about new engines and sloppy spray paint job, leaky manifolds, all for just under 40 grand.

OINK OINK

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:03 pm

Commissionpoint wrote:
prowlersfish wrote:How can anyone call a boat a Pig with out seeing it ?
Hmm. Lets see.......

No clean-up after carpet install, unsecured bilge pumps. rats nests of wiring, no chafe protection on the pumpout line and wrong hose used in install, loose hot water tank with securing bands on sole nearby, lies about new engines and sloppy spray paint job, leaky manifolds, all for just under 40 grand.

OINK OINK

Like I said All boats will have a issue or so ( find a perfict one and Noah will be at the helm ) , and yes the price tag is too high But a pig because you see a few hours work ? I think not .More info would be needed To make a fair judgment, I would have to see it in person .

Just IMO

Stripermann2 · Post by **Stripermann2** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:05 pm

prowlersfish wrote:How can anyone call a boat a Pig with out seeing it ? sure there are some issues , But all boats have some , even new.

Oh come now Paul...surely you've seen Pig Boats. But I'm sure this Trojan doesn't have any functional torpedo tubes.

I learned a long time ago not to critique another's boat, unless you have one, in which you can compare...

Commissionpoint · Post by **Commissionpoint** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:30 pm

prowlersfish wrote:But a pig because you see a few hours work ? I think not .

No, I see the possibility of a litany of other poorly done work or worse yet cosmetics being done to cover up much more major issues. Hence the original statement of lipstick on a pig. Honestly though, I'm not interested getting in a protracted debate about it. I'm not buying it. Are you? I was just offering up my opinion is all.

I still say anyone interested in purchasing it should pay for a survey. Espescially at that price. Even if the survey was 1000 bux it would be better to spend that than 38k on something that is a POS. Again, just my opinion.

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:35 pm

And I was giving mine . a survery is a must for sure on any boat. and I do feel the price is way to high ,

alexander38 · Post by **alexander38** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:43 pm

wasn't Noah's boat made of wood and with no 454's it had to have sails...not perfect...but it did have at least 2 pigs on it....

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:50 pm

summer storm · Post by **summer storm** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:11 pm

What is the distance you want to ship the boat? 1,400 sounds very low for a boat that will require escorts and over size permits.

aaronbocknek · Post by **aaronbocknek** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:24 pm

alexander38 wrote:wasn't Noah's boat made of wood and with no 454's it had to have sails...not perfect...but it did have at least 2 pigs on it....

ahhhh my torah portion for my bar mitzvah believe it or not....
300x50x30 (cubits that is), make thee an ark of gopher wood, pitch it in and out w/ pitch. .... etc..... no wonder i love boats.......

pigs? on noah's ark? they must have ridden in the 'non kosher section'

perry sir.... in all the discussions, you never shared w/ the folks what you thought of my boat when you visited..... i hope it passed. and parkside still has slips available.......

jefflaw35 · Post by **jefflaw35** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:49 pm

issues? I can show you some issues

Yes Tony I do beleave Aaron told me his was going up for sale as well, He seemed to have a really well kept vessel in baltimore

jefflaw35 · Post by **jefflaw35** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:51 pm

^^^^ feels LIKE a retard NOW!!!!^^^^^

HEY AARON!

same time post i guess wasnt there a second ago lol

DOUBLE R · Post by **DOUBLE R** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:34 pm

alexander38 wrote:wasn't Noah's boat made of wood and with no 454's it had to have sails...not perfect...but it did have at least 2 pigs on it....

Yeah, but did they have lipstick on them?

P-Dogg · Post by **P-Dogg** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:59 pm

perry sir.... in all the discussions, you never shared w/ the folks what you thought of my boat when you visited..... i hope it passed. and parkside still has slips available....... [/quote]

Rest assured Sir Aaron, it did pass. I didn't know I was supposed to alert the rest of us forum junkies that I saw it.

I never mentiond to folks here that you told me that you might sell your boat because I thought it was privileged info, but it looks to be public knowledge. Are you actually going to sell it, or are you still thinking about it? Do you want to just give it to me? My mom said something about a lawyer....

Barring becoming the new steward of Sir Aaron's boat, here is the latest tricabin I'm looking at: http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1982- ... -101651207

I want to show-up with a surveyor and 50 C-notes*. If the hull is good, that is all that I'm interested in at this point. Based upon what I've seen in the used boat market, I think I might be better off starting with a bare hull and gutting it. Yeah, I know, I'll never get out of it what I put into it, but if I buy a POS and put new engines, AC, generator, interior, new wiring, etc. in it, it will outlast my boating career, and besides, it will be exactly what I want. I asked my kid if he would help me remodel it. He asked how long it would take. I told him a year or two and he said "That's not too long. You mean we'd be able to use it as soon as the summer after next?"

This from a 14 year old. My wife is looking forward to picking new furnishings and the like. She is quite frankly more excited about the prospect than I am, because I know that expensive grimlins and disappointment can lurk behind every panel. I guess she knows too, but her part will be to mostly write the checks.

Before I checked the forum this evening, I was shopping for a boat trailer. Starting at $5K or so, you can buy a semi-trailer that is used to haul boats. I'm mulling over the idea of buying a trailer to keep my boat on at my house. Land storage there is free, I'll be about 30 seconds from the boat, and when I'm done, I can sell the trailer and recoup some of my "storage" expense, something not possible if you rent yard space an hour and $30 bucks in truck gas from your house. Not having to travel to the boat has huge benefits besides just the greater net work time. All of my woodworking and other tools are right next to the boat, and my neighbors are nearby when it is time for heavy lifting! We keep vascillating between buying another airplane (not a second one, rather a replacement for the one we sold last) and building one. Rebuilding a boat would be about one-third of the cost in both time and money -- and it comes with a beer fridge and a toilet.

Regarding the shipping distance, it is about 200 miles. I got the dollar amount from the Yachtworld "Ship it" button in the ad. I asked for firm quotes from uShip today, but haven't received any back.

Curiously, I haven't heard from the Moneta Tricab broker today either. I asked him what "new engines with warranties" means, what parts they replaced in the overhaul, etc. I also asked to speak to the buyers of the two other tricabs that they said they remodeled and sold already.

* a name for the boat just lept into my head: Sea Note. Okay, might be corny, but the the Mrs. didn't endorse For Play, Four Play (we have two kids), or Trojan Worrier (a holdover from before I, umm, went to the urologist).

jefflaw35 · Post by **jefflaw35** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:10 pm

gosh you sound just like me with a bigger baot!! she loves her chores and knows the dangers behind each panels. She write the lil checks and named the boat Rubber Guppy. She said anyone that knows us would understand after learning we own a trojan LOL . hope you find what your looking for. I hope Aaron is not mad at me for telling me was selling the boat. but it came out first and he responded to it. I still think its a nice boat

alexander38 · Post by **alexander38** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:23 pm

Aaron posted a week or so ago that he might sell, he let it out. and only one pig had lip stick on....the other one was lookin for a 42' bayliner....with 6.0's