Update of Black Jack 13M, pictures from Survey

[DOUGNASH]

Here are the pictures from the survey.

The boat leaves on Thursday morning for South Amboy New Jersey.

There is a minor repair list, but the estimate of FMV for Black Jack came back well above what I paid.

I will keep you posted...






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[alexander38]

Might I be so rude as to ask what you did pay for her ?

[willietrojan]

I am currently looking at a 13m as well, did the surveyor say anything about
the hull possibly being cored? There as been some discussion on this form about 13meters having cored hulls but I never saw a defiant answer.

[DOUGNASH]

[quote="alexander38"]Might I be so rude as to ask what you did pay for her ?[/quote

No Worries, here how it looks so far...

$66,500 Purchase Price
$ 1,000 Survey
$ 3,000 Haul, block, prep, remove radar arch, fix trim tab & diesel leak
$ 8,500 Coletta Trucking to New Jersey from Florida
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$79,000 so far, LOL

Once in NJ, needs to get hauled and blocked again, the biggest problem the surveyor found was the stbrd shaft is out of alignment that he visually observed during sea trial. The boat is going to Lockwood Boat Works in NJ which is suppose to have a prop/shaft alignment specialist on staff, LOL. All I know is the labor is $100/hr there, so hopefully it is an easy fix.

While in New Jersey, Atlantic Towers will be measuring her for a 150sq ft hard top, which will be installed later.

Then I can bring to home port of Freeport Long Island. Once there, boat gets hauled again for bottom redone, the 4 blade wheels need to go out for tuning, new zincs, underwater lighting, and new thru hulls for my new electronics package. That is the list so far...

More updates and pictures t/f!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DOUGNASH]

I am currently looking at a 13m as well, did the surveyor say anything about
the hull possibly being cored? There as been some discussion on this form about 13meters having cored hulls but I never saw a defiant answer.

He didnt say anything about the hull being cored, but there is some "pea sized" blistering on the bottom.

I know I will have to address it at some point...

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NAME OF VESSEL: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "Blackjack"
TYPE OF SURVEY: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Pre-Purchase for Buyer
OVERALL VESSEL RATING .: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . **** FAIR
ESTIMATED MARKET VALUE . :. . . . . . . . . . . . . . $ 85,500.00
ESTIMATED REPLACEMENT COST . :. . . . . . . . . $ 595,500.00
BUILDER: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Trojan
YEAR BUILT: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1984
MODEL YEAR: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1985
MODEL OF VESSEL: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 44

**** Per Buc Book

HULL CONSTRUCTION
MATERIAL:
FRP (fiber reinforced plastic)
EXTERIOR HULL:
White gelcoat.
PORTLIGHTS:
Opening portlights. All were operable.
BULKHEADS:
Athwartships reinforcement enhanced by bulkheads bonded to the hull with FRP (fiber reinforced
plastic). Appeared serviceable where sighted.
STRINGERS:
Hull stiffness provided by FRP longitudinal stringers. Complete inspection not possible due to limited
access. Appeared serviceable where observed.
TRANSOM:
Reinforced, FRP transom. Appeared serviceable.
BILGE:
Bilge area provides the area for most boat systems and tankage. Appeared serviceable.
CHAIN LOCKER (DRAINAGE):
The chain locker is forward and accessible through an access in the forward cabin. The chain
locker drainage is to the bilge. Appeared serviceable.
LIMBER HOLES:
Limber holes are of adequate size and clear where sighted.
MOISTURE CONTENT:
This vessel's exterior hull was inspected with a Marine Infrared Thermal Camera, a sounding
hammer and a moisture meter for the detection of moisture and delamination. No apparent signs of
significant moisture intrusion or FRP delamination was detected.
DECK CONSTRUCTION
TYPE:
Molded FRP (fiber reinforced plastic) with white gelcoat and non-skid surface.
MATERIAL:
FRP (fiber reinforced plastic).
COCKPIT:
Cruising type cockpit.
HULL-TO-DECK JOINT
TYPE:
The hull to deck joint was of the deck overlap type. Appeared serviceable where sighted.
FASTENERS:
Stainless steel screw type.
REINFORCEMENT:
Stainless steel rub rail surrounds the vessel as protection to the hull to deck joint. Appeared
serviceable.

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DECK FITTINGS
STANCHIONS:
Welded stainless steel rail system, runs the forward perimeter of the deck. Appeared serviceable.
BOW PULPIT (BOW RAIL):
Stainless steel stanchions and rail system. Appeared serviceable.
TOE RAILS:
Molded FRP toe rails, part of deck layup.
VENTILATION:
Provided by portlights and hatches topsides and deck.
SCUPPERS:
Cockpit has scuppers at port and starboard aft corners. Appeared serviceable.
WINDLASS/GIPSY:
Good Automatic Windlass. Operated.
HAWSE PIPES:
Integrated into anchor windlass.
HATCHES:
Two (2) Bomar aluminum and lexan hatches. Appeared serviceable.
GRAB RAIL:
Appeared serviceable.
CLEATS:
Six (6) stainless steel cleats were thru-bolted. Appeared serviceable.
ANCHOR PLATFORM:
FRP anchor platform with stainless steel anchor plate and integrated bow roller. Appeared
serviceable.
OTHER:
FRP mounted swim platform with Windline telescoping stainless steel swim ladder. Appeared
serviceable.
SUPERSTRUCTURE
MATERIAL:
Cabin house and deck are one unit molded FRP (fiber reinforced plastic).
JOINERY STRESS:
None Sighted.
CANVAS AND SUPPORT STRUCTURE:
The cockpit enclosures were of maroon canvas material with clear plastic window material. The
support structure is radar arch and stainless steel tubing. Appeared serviceable.
SUPERSTRUCTURE HOUSE TO DECK JOINT:
Deck house and deck appeared to be molded seamlessly, no joint was observed.
BRIDGE DECK
MATERIAL:
FRP (fiber reinforced plastic) molded bridge.
TYPE:
Bridge provides helm station and crew seating area.
COCKPIT:
Cruising style cockpit.
SEATS:
*C1
White vinyl cushioned seats. The vinyl cockpit seat trim is in poor condition.
WINDSHIELD:
Wraparound glass windshield. Appeared serviceable.
ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT AND ACCESSORIES
GENERAL EQUIPMENT:
Cockpit sink. Operated.
ACCESSORIES:
Radar arch overhead cockpit lights. Operated. Courtesy cockpit foot lights. Operated. Two (2)
docking lights. Operated. Two (2) transom lights. Operated.
FISHING EQUIPMENT
WASH DOWN SYSTEM:
Cockpit wash down hose bib is operable.
ROD HOLDERS:
Three (3) stainless steel gunwale mounted rod holders in cockpit coaming. Appeared serviceable.
Six (6) aluminum mounted rocket launcher rod holders. Appeared serviceable.
CABIN APPOINTMENTS
INTERIOR DESCRIPTION:
INTERIOR BULKHEADS:
The interior bulkheads were fit well where sighted.
WATER INTRUSION SIGNS:
None Sighted.
STORAGE AREAS:
The cabinets, lockers, drawers, and shelving fit well where sighted.
HEADLINERS:
Headliner material in the cabins appeared to be a light colored vinyl. Appeared serviceable.
DOORWAYS:
FRP cockpit to salon sliding door. Appeared serviceable. Wood cabin and head doors. Appeared
serviceable.
FABRIC AND CUSHIONS:
Appeared Serviceable.
FLOOR AND WINDOW COVERINGS:
Floor covering is carpet in the cabins. Appeared serviceable.

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ACCOMMODATIONS:
Two (2) cabins, forward queen berth cabin and upper lower berth cabin Appeared serviceable.
HEADS:
One (1).
SHOWERS:
There is a stand up shower enclosure in the head. Operated. Fresh water hot and cold transom
shower. Operated.
FAUCET FIXTURES:
The faucet fixtures and sinks were operable.
LIGHT FIXTURES:
12 volt cabin lights were operable.
SALON FURNISHINGS:
Two (2) salon vinyl cushioned couches. Appeared serviceable.
AIR CONDITIONING UNITS:
Two (2) Marine Air self contained units.
CABIN HEATING:
The Marine Air units are reverse cycle for heat.
GALLEY
SINKS:
Two (2) corian sinks. Appeared serviceable.
REFRIGERATION:
Frigidaire refrigerator with separate freezer above. Operated.
STOVE/OVEN:
Three (3) Force 10 electric stove top burners with oven. Operated.
HEAT PROTECTION (INSULATION):
Folding stainless steel burner cover. Appeared serviceable.
MICROWAVE:
Emerson microwave oven. Operated.
PROPULSION
MAIN ENGINES
TYPE:
Two (2) inboard engines.
MANUFACTURER:
Detroit Diesel 6-71
NUMBER OF CYLINDERS:
Six (6).
INDICATED HOURS:
Port hours 147.4. Starboard hours 147.3.
THROTTLE CONTROLS:
Teleflex mechanical lever/cable type throttle and gear controls. Operated.
EMERGENCY SHUT DOWN:
Port and starboard shut down pull cables at helm station.
ENGINE MOUNTS AND BED:
Main engine beds are heavy longitudinal stringers inboard and outboard. Engine mounts appeared to
be in serviceable condition.
DRIP PANS:
Engine fluid and loose debris falls into bilge area.
LUBRICATION:
Level indication is normal both port and starboard. Note: The surveyor recommends that all engine
fluids and filters be renewed.
VENTILATION:
Appeared adequate.
BILGE BLOWERS:
Two (2) Jabsco power blowers with flex tubing. Operated.
EXHAUST SYSTEM:
Raw water cooled with risers and flexible coupling sections double clamped where sighted.
Appeared serviceable.
LUBE TRANSFER:
*B1
Reverso lubrication transfer system did not power up.
INSULATION:
Aluminized foam rubber sound deadening insulation was noted in engine room. Appeared
serviceable.
PROP SHAFTS:
Stainless steel. Appeared serviceable.
ENGINE ALARMS:
Test of port and starboard low oil pressure alarm and coolant over heat warning audible at helm
station. Operated.
ENGINE SHUT DOWN:
Operated.
STUFFING BOX:
Appeared serviceable.

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OTHER:
*C2
One (1) engine room fluorescent light did not operate.
NOTE:
*C3
Surface rust noted on both engines.
COOLING SYSTEM
TYPE:
Raw water cooled wet exhaust.
RAW WATER STRAINERS:
Two (2) Groco bronze alloy with sight glass. Appeared serviceable.
COOLANT LEVEL:
Normal levels observed. The surveyor recommends changing the fluid with new in accordance with
the manufactures suggested specification.
HOSES AND CLAMPS:
Double clamped where sighted. Appeared serviceable.
BELTS AND PULLEYS:
Belts condition appeared serviceable. Pulleys appeared free of corrosion.
SEACOCKS AND STRAINERS:
Raw water seacocks were ball valve type. Operated.
OTHER:
*B2
The starboard engine RPM tachometer stopped working during sea trial.
NOTE:
*B3
The engine temperature gauges did not operate. The port engine raw water pump is leaking.
TRANSMISSIONS
TYPE:
Transmission driven by diesel powered internal combustion engine.
DRIVE TYPE:
Straight Drives.
FLUID LEVEL AND CONDITION:
Normal level indicated on dipsticks. Appeared serviceable. Recommend fluids be renewed.
CONTROLS:
Teleflex type mechanical cable and linkage. Appeared serviceable.

TRANSMISSIONS(Continued)
PROP SHAFT:
*B4
Stainless steel. The starboard engine shaft wobbled during sea trial.
PACKING GLAND:
Appeared serviceable.
COOLER:
Two (2) engine mounted transmission coolers. Appeared serviceable.
NOTE:
*B5
The transmission pressure gauges did not operate.
FUEL SYSTEM
MAIN ENGINE(S) FUEL SYSTEM
FUEL TYPE:
Diesel.
MATERIAL:
5052 Aluminum.
NUMBER OF TANKS:
Two (2)
SECURED:
Metal brackets to hull. Appeared serviceable.
MANUFACTURING LABEL:
The ABYC required labels were sighted on the fuel tanks.
FILL PIPE LOCATIONS:
Port and starboard side decks marked for diesel.
FILL PIPE GROUNDED:
Appeared to be properly grounded.
FILL PIPE FITTINGS:
Fill deck fittings is clearly marked as to fuel type:
FUEL LINES AND FITTINGS:
Supply lines are copper with copper alloy fittings. Flexible hose to engine connections. Appeared
serviceable.
RETURN LINES:
Return lines are copper with copper alloy fittings. Flexible hose to engine connections. Appeared
serviceable.
VENT LOCATION:
Port and starboard topsides, flame screens were sighted.
SHUT-OFF VALVE:
Located at fuel manifold. Operated.

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BONDING SYSTEM
MAIN BONDING CONDUCTOR:
The bonding system is well established where sighted. A separate bonding system was performed
and I did use a corrosion meter to establish the level of protection.
THRU-HULL FITTINGS:
The thru-hull fittings as well as all sighted underwater fittings are bonded where sighted and show no
excessive corrosion.
SHAFTS AND SHAFT LOGS:
The propeller shafts are not bonded. The propeller shaft logs appeared to be bonded.
RUDDER SHAFTS AND SHAFT LOGS:
Rudder shafts and rudder shaft logs appeared to be bonded.
SEA STRAINERS:
All sea strainers appeared to be bonded.
PUMPS AND MOTOR HOUSINGS:
All pumps and housings appeared to be bonded, where sighted.
ENGINES AND GENERATORS:
Appeared to be bonded and grounded.
ZINC (HULL ZINC):
Appeared serviceable.

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CONDITION OF HULL (WETTED SURFACE)
BLISTERS:
*B20
There were many pea blisters sighted on the hull's wetted surface area.
CONDITION OF BOTTOM PAINT:
Bottom well painted. Condition good to fair.

[alexander38]

looks like you may have gotten a deal..

[prowlersfish]

Why noy run it on its own bottom to get it home ?

[DOUGNASH]

Why noy run it on its own bottom to get it home ?

There are so many things that can go wrong, I really dont have the time, it is definitely not going to save me a bunch of money, the boat has too many small issues that I know about as well as probably a handful more that have not been discovered yet, for me to even think about having the boat take a journey like that.

The boat has pretty much been sitting for a while, so who knows whats around the corner.

The trip from NJ to Long Island is a lot easier...

If it was a newer and faster boat and I had a week to kill, I would do it without question...

[RWS]

YOU DID EXCEPTIONALLY WELL.

FEW PEOPLE COME OUT ON A BOAT PURCHASE AS YOU HAVE.

CONGRATS !

RWS