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tim, i'd love to have a scan of that too!!!k9th wrote:I have the 1979 sales brochure which the original owner kept with the boat documents. The sales guy even hand wrote the deal he offered in the brochure.
If you want it Doug I will be glad to scan it to a PDF file and email it to you. It is in excellent condition.
I have two different specs that say 16,500 and 17,500 for 1980 so I think the 17,500 is the correct one. One problem is sometimes Trojan did not date the material making it hard for me to figure the model years.prowlersfish wrote:I have a 1980 ? trojan spec sheet and it lists the apox weight as 15,500 , 500 lbs less then the conv. I do find that low But thats what it says . I thought I have seen it listed heavier then that in other Trojan info .
And Don't forget about the Tri-Fly
I would love it trojanbook@bellsouth.netk9th wrote:I have the 1979 sales brochure which the original owner kept with the boat documents. The sales guy even hand wrote the deal he offered in the brochure.
If you want it Doug I will be glad to scan it to a PDF file and email it to you. It is in excellent condition.
summer storm wrote:I have two different specs that say 16,500 and 17,500 for 1980 so I think the 17,500 is the correct one. One problem is sometimes Trojan did not date the material making it hard for me to figure the model years.prowlersfish wrote:I have a 1980 ? trojan spec sheet and it lists the apox weight as 15,500 , 500 lbs less then the conv. I do find that low But thats what it says . I thought I have seen it listed heavier then that in other Trojan info .
And Don't forget about the Tri-Fly
I have the Tri-Fly as a stand alone model (model 360) so it will have separate pages. I did this 32 sedan, sportfisherman, and express. It gives me more room for photos.
I'll be doing the long running 36 sedan soon so stand by Paul.
doug, i think the reason why this chapter in particular is the most involved, simply stated, it was one of the few designs that actually evolved and changed throughout the decades of the model run. i've seen a lot of trojans out there, but, hands down, this one actually morphed and was tweeked more than any. if you look at the f-36 sedan and the f-32, from day one until the very last day, aside from trim options and interior upgrades, the models stayed the same. nothing was really changes hull wise or super structure wise. the tri cabin went through probably 4 evolutions. when you compare the superstructure of the basic first f-36 tri cabin to the tri fly, the cabin sides were vastly different. the tri fly was more flat as opposed to the angular design of the basic tri cabin. heck, even with the redesign to the raised aft deck model, there were changes to the cabin sides to the eventual (late 1986 to 1987) aluminum and glass aft cabin escape hatch.summer storm wrote:Aaron, yes send me photos of your dads boat, I will be covering the sea raider boats to but not in so much detail as the F and meter boats. Any brochures you can scan I can also use. It helps when I try and put a time together for a model. For some reason I knew this boat would be a problem, I just don't have that much info on it. I blew through the last 6 boats.
I've got most of my Hi Res photos from the power boat guide but I'll look at yacht world, they might be to small. The drafts are not Hi res but the book will be. It's going to look sharp!
Question, I've got the Tri-Fly (360) from 75 to 77?
Also, where it the tri cabin go after Canada, PA or MD?
Thanks to everyone for the help
trojanbook@bellsouth.net
560 H.P. would be the 400 & 383's @ 280 H.P. x 2 = 560H.P.summer storm wrote:I can't find that info but I will look. 72 to 76 states fuel at 150 gal and twins to 560 hp but no engine makes.jimbo36 wrote:Doug, No mention of the 383 & 400cid Chryslers which were common in the '72-76 models. My 1974 has 400 cid Chryslers 280 H.P. each. Also, I have 2x80 gal fuel tanks. good luck with your quest.
thanks
jon-e-quest.... the solid side bridge 'windows' were a result of my dad speaking at length with the plant manager, peter francis, both on the phone and when we visited the shepherd plant in feb of 1972. i sat in on the meeting with dad and peter and one of the engineers. after the meeting it was agreed that shepherd would install lexan, safety glass was added for the 1973 model year. dad was adamant that those side windows be enclose as opposed to strata glass/canvas, for safety of my brother, sister and myself. mom was instrumental at having shepherd add accessible storage under the pull out salon sofa and adding an opening storage area behind the slanted mirror in the master head. these changes were later incorporated in later model runs. as for the aft bulkhead, you are indeed correct. and it was one of the weakest links of the cockpit tri cabin. we were also one of the first to have 'shore water' installed. at the time, it was not even an option on the tri cabin, but, again, dad and mr. francis hashed things out so that ours was most unique. we also had the swim platform and the teak toe rails added, again, very rare for the 1972 model year.jon_e_quest wrote:You wrote that the early boats had a teak bulkhead between the aft cockpit and the cabin. That bulkhead and the aft cabin door (all boats through 1976) was actually constructed with white Formica-like laminate outside and faux woodgrain laminate inside both glued over plywood with only a few bits of real teak trim.
Not news worthy, but 1972 interiors were completely trimmed with faux wood laminate (a carry-over from the 1971 Sea Raider) and not with teak veneer as in boats built from 1973. Some 72's had white laminate cabinetry and interior doors, while others had all teak cabinetry. Early Model 440 windshields lacked glazing in the side panels and had Eisenglass instead (another Sea Raider carry-over). Both are illustrations of how Trojan continually changed the specifcations of this model throughout it's entire production run. It's likely these running changes were a result of wanting to use up parts stock before switching to the new spec.
On that note, at least some 1977 models (maybe all?) continued with twin beds over twin fuel tanks and did not have a queen.
My 1972's fuel tanks are each 80 gal. Additional twin 40 gal tanks were an option.
As for engines, most boats through the late 70's seem to have used the optional 280hp Chrysler 400 (Chrysler introduced the 400 in 1972) when Chrysler ended all big block production in August of 1978.
Also, I have a 1970 Trojan brochure if you want background matertial for this chapter. ...Can't wait 'til you're finished!
what year is your tri again? when the redesign took place, according to the 1982 brochure i have, extra tankage could be added under the salon as wing tanks, additional to the tank under the center aft berth or under the two p/s twin berths on the 77-80 models. i do not recall any of the flush deck tri cabins having this option though. if your tri is pre flush deck design model year the extra tanks were added by the PO.Vitaliy wrote:talkinga bout fuel tanks, my trojan was converted (twin 454's) in 2009 and i have 4 total tanks with "80 GAL" stamped on them.... was that an option or did the PO add those?
I'm working on fixing the engine options and yes if you have a brochure and can scan it it would be very useful. trojanbook@bellsouth.netjon_e_quest wrote:You wrote that the early boats had a teak bulkhead between the aft cockpit and the cabin. That bulkhead and the aft cabin door (all boats through 1976) was actually constructed with white Formica-like laminate outside and faux woodgrain laminate inside both glued over plywood with only a few bits of real teak trim.
Not news worthy, but 1972 interiors were completely trimmed with faux wood laminate (a carry-over from the 1971 Sea Raider) and not with teak veneer as in boats built from 1973. Some 72's had white laminate cabinetry and interior doors, while others had all teak cabinetry. Early Model 440 windshields lacked glazing in the side panels and had Eisenglass instead (another Sea Raider carry-over). Both are illustrations of how Trojan continually changed the specifcations of this model throughout it's entire production run. It's likely these running changes were a result of wanting to use up parts stock before switching to the new spec.
On that note, at least some 1977 models (maybe all?) continued with twin beds over twin fuel tanks and did not have a queen.
My 1972's fuel tanks are each 80 gal. Additional twin 40 gal tanks were an option.
As for engines, most boats through the late 70's seem to have used the optional 280hp Chrysler 400 (Chrysler introduced the 400 in 1972) when Chrysler ended all big block production in August of 1978.
Also, I have a 1970 Trojan brochure if you want background matertial for this chapter. ...Can't wait 'til you're finished!
its the 74 model, there are twin tanks on each side (identical tanks) in the main saloon which in my pinion is a VERY idiotic design, as it makes it vertually imposible to get anywhere behind the tank (such as the shutoffs) water and septic system along with all hte piping back there, theres simply no acces to it due to the tanks...aaronbocknek wrote:what year is your tri again? when the redesign took place, according to the 1982 brochure i have, extra tankage could be added under the salon as wing tanks, additional to the tank under the center aft berth or under the two p/s twin berths on the 77-80 models. i do not recall any of the flush deck tri cabins having this option though. if your tri is pre flush deck design model year the extra tanks were added by the PO.Vitaliy wrote:talkinga bout fuel tanks, my trojan was converted (twin 454's) in 2009 and i have 4 total tanks with "80 GAL" stamped on them.... was that an option or did the PO add those?