Trojan Boat Forum

dollarbill wrote:What is with the blue tarp in the water on that 110K 32?

I knew Detroit Diesels leak oil - but that much??

Or is that a California rule.

I mentioned it earlier on the first page, it looks like a set-up when the boat pulls into the slip, it helps keep barnicles down to a minimum...another member has a similar set-up down in Fl. (Juiceclarke's F36)

Well he really lowered the price! He started at $32K

http://norfolk.craigslist.org/boa/2175512397.html

finally moved your grocery bags too

Nope bag is still there . BTW did not see the boat at James river marina , but it was dark

Paul the police told you to quit trolling docks after dark.

I wil be nice I wil be nice I will be nice . ps you have a text .

prowlersfish wrote:Nope bag is still there . BTW did not see the boat at James river marina , but it was dark

Where's the bag?

rossjo wrote:

prowlersfish wrote:Nope bag is still there . BTW did not see the boat at James river marina , but it was dark

Where's the bag?

on the wall, left of opening, can see the handle
looks like a brown shopping bag

I would not wast my time contacting this clown . I aske if the boat is in Va Beach , he says No but near by , wont give you a number you got to give him yours and your name . I smell a scam using old photos ,?? If its leget he will never sell it being like that . And I know someone looking for one


Looking for a f32 ? be careful on this one.

Torcan wrote:

rossjo wrote:

prowlersfish wrote:Nope bag is still there . BTW did not see the boat at James river marina , but it was dark

Where's the bag?

on the wall, left of opening, can see the handle
looks like a brown shopping bag

OH, he said the pix shows the grocery bag still on the counter ...sorry.

Does looks like a scam.

My brother in-law restores old tractors (retired).

He had a guy overnight a check on Saturday (no banks open) for $2k more than the price. The guy called and told him the girls in the office made a mistake and sent the shippers fee along with the payment. If he could just send $2k to the shipper, he'd have them come by in a week or two to pick the tractor up for delivery cross country.

My brother-in-law went to the police, and then called the guy Monday and said that someone would e calling him ... not sure how it turned out yet ... the police called this guy alright! Lots of scams out there!

I have been seeing alot of guys lately trying to buy boats cheap and flip them because of the current market. What I don't understand is if the boat was for sale for months at a lower price what warrants the higher price? a wash down?

summer storm wrote:I have been seeing alot of guys lately trying to buy boats cheap and flip them because of the current market. What I don't understand is if the boat was for sale for months at a lower price what warrants the higher price? a wash down?

Willingness to wait. If you decide, or need, to sell very quickly you are going to get (or take) peanuts compared to true value. If you dig your heels in and refuse to sell for anything less than what the boat is really worth, it's likely gonna take a while. The market is flooded with eBay and Craigslist crap at WalMart prices, and I for one am getting worried that too many people are starting to think that's what boats are really worth.

captainmaniac wrote:

summer storm wrote:I have been seeing alot of guys lately trying to buy boats cheap and flip them because of the current market. What I don't understand is if the boat was for sale for months at a lower price what warrants the higher price? a wash down?

Willingness to wait. If you decide, or need, to sell very quickly you are going to get (or take) peanuts compared to true value. If you dig your heels in and refuse to sell for anything less than what the boat is really worth, it's likely gonna take a while. The market is flooded with eBay and Craigslist crap at WalMart prices, and I for one am getting worried that too many people are starting to think that's what boats are really worth.

Unfortunately that is the sorry truth. A boats worth is what people are willing to pay for it. That's the free market for you, capitalism at it's height.
It might be worth the world to you, you may have spent a fortune on it, but the resale is what the market can bear.
It's going to be a long climb back to the top, boats are a luxury, and will be one of the last to regain their true worth. Housing prices will have to rise well ahead of any luxury items out there first before we see any kind of rebound in the used boat market.

If it comes down to the house or the boat, people are going to dump the boat for the balances owing on them, just to get rid of the payments in order to keep the roof over their heads, and rightly so.

+1

Torcan wrote:A boats worth is what people are willing to pay for it.

That is where I want to differentiate things... There will be someone out there willing to pay $40K+ for an F32 that is well maintained, but if you only list it for 60-90 days then sell to the highest bidder or next buyer that walks through the door (at $15K) that is NOT an indication of "what people are willing to pay for it"... that's an indication that the seller got desperate or dumb and screwed themselves.

Example : A 41 Chris Craft (Commander - the flush deck motor yacht style - with flybridge and full aft enclosure) - think it was an '86 or something like that - with two new engines (less than 100 hours on them). Good shape, good canvas, well equipped. Listed at something like $79K... after about 12 months the owner gave up and sold it for something like $23K (and if it didn't sell to that prospective buyer, the owner was going to just sell it to the Broker the following week for $18K).

Makes me feel sick.

When I sold my last boat in 2002 (1987 26' Four Winns Liberator), I got $2K less than I paid for it 9 years earlier (and no I didn't buy it for $6K and sell it for $4K... it sold for $28K). It took 2 years for the right person to find out about the boat, understand what they were looking at, and appreciate it enough.... but the guy did come along eventually.

I ended up having to carry (and maintain, and insure) it for a while after I put it up for sale, but I got its true value back out of it in the end (and when I felt like skipping along between 35 and 50 knots, playing in the chop, and digging the bugs out of my teeth afterwards, I still could!! )