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Enclosure Windows

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:45 am
by Lawman
Need to clean my windows in my enclosure, they have small scratches that are in it but would like a product that will clean the glass without scratching it ? I've heard of people using 'Pledge' but I've never tried it.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:52 am
by g36
i use novus plastic polish. see link below. have used it for several years no issues and it works great.
also have seen flitz advertized and have friends that use it

http://www.novuspolish.com/

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:15 am
by Torcan
you might want to check out this product as well. there was a thread about this a while back and one of the members here was using this and liked it.

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/c ... tchoff.php

here is the former thread:
http://www.trojanboats.net/wforum/viewt ... +scratches

Re: Enclosure Windows

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:46 am
by Commissionpoint
Lawman wrote:Need to clean my windows in my enclosure, they have small scratches that are in it but would like a product that will clean the glass without scratching it ? I've heard of people using 'Pledge' but I've never tried it.
Windex will clean them if its just dirt you are talking about. I wouldn't use a greasy furniture polish on them though.

As mentioned there are some products out there to polish out scratches, be careful though, using the wrong one will leave you with more scratches than you started with.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:44 am
by Stripermann2
I've used Pledge as recommended but they say don't use the lemon version.
I would not use any glass cleaner which may have ammonia in it!

I have used this product after cleaning well. Never use paper towels! It'll scratch.
Use soft cloth only.

For what it's worth,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GxwUhxFuRM

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:26 am
by Commissionpoint
Stripermann2 wrote: I would not use any glass cleaner which may have ammonia in it!
I dunno Jamie. I have used Windex (DEFINATELY has ammonia in it) for many years on my canvas enclosures. Never have I seen any ill effects from using it. I just sold a Sea Swirl with a full enclosure and cleaned it several times a year with straight Windex right out of the bottle. After 8 years and several dozen cleanings using this method the enclosure was in pristine condition. No scratches, hazing, yellowing, cracking, degradation of the stiching, etc. Since I have never seen the much mentioned problems assiciated with Windex use on clear vinyl, I am begining to think its an old wives tale. Perhaps there was a day before modern polymer technology that certain chemicals did have an ill effect on enclosure materials, but we have come a long way. I'd gladly eat my words if someone had proof that Windex causes problems, but all the "evidence" I have ever seen or heard boils down to "I heard, or I was told". Never have I seen actual physical evidence, which is the hallmark of myth.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:29 am
by Commissionpoint
oops. dbl post :oops:

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:02 am
by Stripermann2
You didn't have to say it twice... :wink: :wink: :wink:

Take it for what it's worth. The ammonia breaks down the polymers and other fancy big scientific ingredients, I know nothing about... :lol:

http://boatcanvas.weebly.com/eisenglass-windows.html

http://my.boatus.com/forum/forum_posts. ... 6226&PN=16

http://www.greatgrady.com/forum/viewtop ... 88b15c5572

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:55 am
by Commissionpoint
Yeh, I have seen lots of articles about it, but again nothing other than anecdotal evidence. One guy saw me cleaning it a couple summers back and literally dropped what he was doing to come warn me. *shrug* Guess I'm just not ready to buy into the ammonia eats polymers camp. Carpet manufacturers all suggest ammonia on nylon, polypropelene (olefin), and other synthetics as do many vinyl flooring manufacturers. Its the things with a petro chemical base that would scare me on polymers.

If I get some time later on I will snap a few pics of the side windows on my '83 Sea Ray. They have been cleaned with Windex since 1995 when I had that top made. 15 summers later and they still look awesome.

Definately not trying to start an arguement. Just passing on my own personal experience regarding the use of Windex.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:12 pm
by prowlersfish
I was told to use Plexus I have not tried it yet


http://www.plexusplasticcleaner.com/plexus.html

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:16 pm
by Stripermann2
prowlersfish wrote:I was told to use Plexus I have not tried it yet


http://www.plexusplasticcleaner.com/plexus.html
Paul,
Plexus is very good... get yourself a bottle.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:43 pm
by Lawman
from what I've read. Plexus is a cleaner/polisher and 210 is a cleaner. Also, alot use 303 aerospace protectant after cleaning. So what do you think would take out minor scratched better ????

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:17 pm
by alexander38
Mother's plastic and polish works well too ..use it on mine.. :wink:

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:55 pm
by jddens
West Marine has a product for this and I have it but it's on the boat and I don't remember the name....... Personally I like 303, works good on everything but wood............John

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:46 pm
by Nancy
CP,

What kind of cloth are you using with the Windex? In 1988, we had a new enclosure made for our new-to-us Grady White. We used Windex and paper towels on it, and the vinyl eventually got cloudy. In hindsight, the paper towels were a bad choice. Friends have used Pledge on their vinyl windows forever--seriously - like 15 years--and the windows still looked like new. The sunbrella gave out before the vinyl.

Nancy