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Your opinions, what IS this boat? Year/length/hull?

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:40 pm
by upstatedon
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1973/Tr ... ted-States

We've been watching this boat for awhile now, and noticed another thread here with many differing opinions. Broker has it listed as a wood hull, 1973, 47'. I'm not convinced.... it looks much bigger, and does not look wood to me. Another poster stated that it IS fiberglass, but I don't see how a broker could make such a big mistake.

I'm just not finding anything on a 1973 wooden hull 47' Trojan, so it seems that something about it isn't correct. Your thoughts?

We have a 36' 1974 Tri Cabin now, looking for a liveaboard with a bit more room.

Thanks!

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:45 pm
by Moderator
It is not a F47 as it is wood hull .

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:18 pm
by upstatedon
I'm thinking it may be a Trojan Hilton 50, largest wooden boat they made.

Still researching....

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:38 pm
by Stripermann2
Definetly not an F series...nice looking though.

This is the very reason why I wish Bob or Don would participate from time to time in our discussions. They should know... and could solve some of life's mysteries! :wink: :wink:

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:45 pm
by prowlersfish
Bob would know . ( Don is the I T Guy )

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:58 pm
by upstatedon
Where's Bob? :)

OK, Found that they made the Hilton in a 47, 50 and 53...

If it's a Hilton, I'd say it's a pretty rare boat.

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:40 pm
by Commissionpoint
We were definately talking about this boat a few weeks back. Paul pointed out its not an F boat (not fiberglass) and I said it was not a 1973. Thats about as far as we got.

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:41 am
by Commissionpoint
http://www.classicadshop.com/productdet ... p5?id=2436

Looks sumthin like this rite?

I believe the Hilton moniker was a marketing ploy suggesting accomodations similar to those found in the successful hotel chain. I wonder if they had to pay a fee to use that name.

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:51 am
by upstatedon
Yep, looks very much like that, except the aft cabin windows aren't the same, which tells me it must be a different year. Can't believe it's so hard to find info on this year/model. Thanks for your help!

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:03 am
by Torcan
I e-mailed the Yacht Broker asking if it was wood hull or fiberglass

He said it was a wooden hull but the paperwork has F-47 on it

Seems to me, after all the discussions here that somewhere along the road, somebody screwed up the paperwork.

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:11 am
by Commissionpoint
No Prob. I have seen that vessel listed for awhile now aas well, and I knew something was hinkey with the description. I still like the F-44 better.

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:56 am
by rossjo
in 1973, Trojan Yachts offered the following, large wooden boats:
Iboats also lists a 50' Motor Yacht in 1973, but Trojan doesn't show it on their list. http://boatspecs.iboats.com/Trojan_Yach ... /54br1516y

Unfortunately, NadaGuides only goes back to 1977, but the biggest boat they list is a 48' Trawler. Ever see one?
http://www.nadaguides.com/Boats/1977/Trojan-Yacht

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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:18 pm
by aaronbocknek
upstatedon wrote:I'm thinking it may be a Trojan Hilton 50, largest wooden boat they made.

Still researching....
the advert added hilton to convey luxury accomodations, as a play on words. the boat is just a trojan. there was never a 'trojan hilton' motor yacht. just a trojan motor yacht.

tri cabin aaron

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:40 pm
by Commissionpoint
aaronbocknek wrote:
upstatedon wrote:I'm thinking it may be a Trojan Hilton 50, largest wooden boat they made.

Still researching....
the advert added hilton to convey luxury accomodations, as a play on words. the boat is just a trojan. there was never a 'trojan hilton' motor yacht. just a trojan motor yacht.

tri cabin aaron
I was inclined to agree with you Aaron, but had to edit my post after reading the fine print in the 1971 ad. It seems indeed they called it the Trojan Hilton , and not just as an advertizing ploy aimed at drawing a correlary to the hotel chain, but as a semi-official model name. In my world its still a 47, 50, or 53 Motor Yacht, but apparantly at least the 50 was indeed called the Trojan Hilton, and not just in the marketing realm.

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:43 pm
by Commissionpoint
rossjo wrote:Unfortunately, NadaGuides only goes back to 1977, but the biggest boat they list is a 48' Trawler. Ever see one?
Not in person, but one is currently listed for sale on Yachtworld. Do a search. Its an interesting model.