I was told you put this up Perry come on and shoot some facts out about POTUS you libs seem to follow off the edge I'm glad I didn't as I see facts have been laid down and you have no response to them or won't. Typical hit a run....
First off, I am hardly a "lib." But more importantly, why the personal bad-mouthing? It seems a tad disrespectful. Are we not all friends here, joined together by our desire to keep our Trojans going and our passion for boating in general? Have you seen other posts from me indicating that I'm online but not in this forum? Do you know that I'm avoiding posting a follow-up on purpose? Can't reasonable people disagree and still get along? Does the polarization that is resulting in political gridlock in Washington also exist here? Take a look at the scope of this particular forum. It is for the "free exchange of thought and ideas." Why don't we use it for that purpose instead of to lambast each other?
Actually, I've used my time off from my job to take-up bow hunting, and have been in the woods having an awesome time. You see, I heard on Fox "news" that the UN was going to invade the US and take my guns, so I figured now was a good time to get into the sport. Not being your average American (I own my house, my three cars, and my boat; I actually have saved for retirement; I have no revolving debt; I don't spend more than I make, and so have some cash in the bank; etc.), I have been able to take advantage of the time off and am loving it, quite frankly. Having educated myself (Mrs. too -- 5 college degrees between us), and (take note Congress)
lived within my means for the last 30 years, I am able to not just weather the storm, but in fact make the most of it. I'm expecting at least another week off. Which is good, because being away put me behind on my chores....
Here is what happened in recent US history. Obama was elected. He said that if he was re-elected, that he would push national health care. He was and he did. A bill passed the bicameral legislature and was signed into law. Its constitutionality was upheld by what all accounts is a conservative supreme court (5 conservatives to 4 liberals). The few dozen "Tea Party" candidates can't believe that such legislation was signed into law and upheld by the SCOTUS, and so like insolent children have tied funding the United States government to over-turning the Affordable Care Act. Whether you think the ACA is a good idea or not, it is reckless to try to affect legislation -- make that the existing law --at the expense of the normal operation of the US government. Other nations are laughing at us, asking how the U.S. expects to be regarded as a world leader when it can't even govern itself. Well, how can you? It is completely shameful the way this has played out -- on a par with W invading Iraq because of its weapons of mass destruction and ties to 9/11. Hint: there were no WMDs, and Saddam Hussein was not tied to 9/11. Wait a minute, wasn't he at war with IRAN not too long ago, a country that captured 55 or so Americans and held them hostage for 444 days? We should have just paid him the $4 trillion dollars that we spent invading Iraq the second time to overthrow him, got him to finish-off Iran, and none of our troops would have been killed. But I digress.
Regarding the cost of insurance for the diabetic person: Sure it seems like a lot of money, only because it is. A true discussion instead of the borderline scare-tactic-case presented would include data on the lifetime cost of treating diabetes. You can find one such discussion here
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2901386/. Unless I missed it in the discussion, it only considers the treatment cost of diabetes. It does not include ailments that are complications from having diabetes, such as amputation of extremities, which is a common occurrence, only treatment of the disorder. Of course we also need to have the discussion of whether insurance coverage is available for such a pre-existing condition, and if so, its price on the current open market. Only then can we decide if the Affordable Care Act is a misnomer in this case.
I feel the Affordable Care Act is hardly a panacea for healthcare in this country. While I generally would not want the government to mandate what people should have, the fact of the matter is, eventually everyone will need healthcare. One thing that I'm glad that it does is force people to actually be responsible for themselves, something that, big government aside, appeals to the
conservative in me. I currently pay for strangers to have healthcare, and so do you. When someone goes to the hospital, which is where people often end-up without the well-care of a primary-care physician, they are not turned away or asked for payment in advance. They are treated for their illness. If they can't pay, the cost of their treatment is not absorbed by the hospital, it is passed on to the paying customers so that the hospital can stay in business -- the same way that a small independent auto shop or a trucking company, for example, would handle it.