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Just a few responses to your questions. Steve helped the chemist and metallurgist because of his degree in fiber glass. They had knowledge in their specialty as Steve had knowledge in his.

As far as where it has been, it has still been in use. The original inventor, the chemist had passed away over 10 years ago so it had been left to the melallurgist. He did not permote or advertise the product, he sold it to the people that called him, the people that had know about the product in the past. It was just not the direction he wanted to go as he was approaching retirment.

There will be more photos to come, it is hard to get photos after time passes. People are busy and/or move away.

Zyrex retails for $299.99 but is on sale for $199.99 until the end of the month.

If you have further questions please go to contacts at http://www.zyrexcoatings.com
captainmaniac wrote:No experience with it, but claims are out of this world... NOTHING lasts 10 years, so if they have something that does, they will put Interlux out of business. Personally, I wouldn't touch it. Though they claim fantastic results, they also say 'Steve' - aka the painter - helped the chemist and metallurgist improve the formula.... if the product was any good in the first place, I find it hard to believe a painter could educate the chemist and metallurgist....

Also.. if its so darn good, where are the 'after 10 years' photos, or customer testimonials on the web site? All you see here is the 'day after application and the boat still hasn't seen water' photos.

There has also been some related chatter in another site (and I won't say that it was a Sea Ray forum) .... someone quoted that the product is a 2 part epoxy, and cost $400 for a gallon of part A and a gallon of part B (so 2 gallons of bottom coat = $400). It also makes me nervous when application instructions say to take 40 grit and sand of the top layer of gelcote... you only HAVE one layer of it... so what are you really doing to your hull?

Lots of promises, 0 evidence to back them up. But its your money .... If you decide to gamble, let us know what happens.
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When a boat is manufactured there are multiple layers of gel coat, when Zyrexing you are only to remoce the shiny layer not all of it and never all the way down to fiber glass

captainmaniac wrote:No experience with it, but claims are out of this world... NOTHING lasts 10 years, so if they have something that does, they will put Interlux out of business. Personally, I wouldn't touch it. Though they claim fantastic results, they also say 'Steve' - aka the painter - helped the chemist and metallurgist improve the formula.... if the product was any good in the first place, I find it hard to believe a painter could educate the chemist and metallurgist....

Also.. if its so darn good, where are the 'after 10 years' photos, or customer testimonials on the web site? All you see here is the 'day after application and the boat still hasn't seen water' photos.

There has also been some related chatter in another site (and I won't say that it was a Sea Ray forum) .... someone quoted that the product is a 2 part epoxy, and cost $400 for a gallon of part A and a gallon of part B (so 2 gallons of bottom coat = $400). It also makes me nervous when application instructions say to take 40 grit and sand of the top layer of gelcote... you only HAVE one layer of it... so what are you really doing to your hull?

Lots of promises, 0 evidence to back them up. But its your money .... If you decide to gamble, let us know what happens.
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Larry

If you go to contacts you are able to send an e-mail.
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larglo wrote:I can see why no one has responded to this post. I clicked on the site, but nowhere could I find where they sell this stuff or how much it cost. Maybe I missed something, if you know, let us know? :D

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The stuff may work or may not , I can not find any independent results good or bad .

What I do see is most the photos of boats are trailer boats , not boats that stay in the water . and you still need to clean the bottom .

If it won't work what is the cost to remove ?? remember you have removed some gel coat to put it on so thats needs to be addressed

Zyrex is one of many "new" products I have seen over the years that claim to work because they are so slick . I have only seen 2 work and they only work on the props ( props spin at high speed so they can trow off growth) so I will let somebody else be the guinea pig. time will tell .

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Larry

http://www.zyrexcoating.com. Please e-mail questions under contact us, more then happy to answer all your questions.
larglo wrote:It's funny, but does anyone know where to by it, or an advertised price. I agree with all that is said here also, I think,,,,no,,,I know, I would pass on this one.

Something else that bugs me about advertisers who say,,,,call for a price. I don't like to "have" to call for a price, or anything, for that matter. If I can't see a price, or a product, "on" the web site, I stay clear of them. If their to lazy, or unable, or what ever to advertise, show, and price a product, then they will not get my business. Ther are to many out there that will bend over backwards to earn your business to waste my time with those who, just don't have time to answer an e mail, from a customer, to bother with.
Want my money,,,,,,,,,,,,,earn it!

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Updates are in the works, cart should be in place in the next week. If you go to contact us at http://www.zyrexcoatings.com we would be more then happy to answer all of your questions


alexander38 wrote:+1 what Larry said, kind of like being back doored by sales attempts from forums. :wink: :arrow:
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Independent test results anyone ?
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Yes Zyrex is family owned. We used the product for 15 years before purchasing the formulas. It is a statement to use something for 15+ years and have the confidence in it to purchase it to manufacture.

Blisters on the bottom of a boat when there are air pockets in fiber glass when manufactured. No it should not happen but it can and does. There are many layers of glass then gel coat. Gel coat is water resistant not water proof. Gel coat will take on water which is where the chance of blistering begins. Zyrex is water proof, when sitting in water nothing can pass through. This is one of the reasons why you increase speed while decreasing fuel.

If you have further questions go to contact us at zyrexcoatings.com or e-mail info@zyrexcoatings.com
randyp wrote:Looks like a mom and pop company. Wish them luck, but doubt the claims can be substantiated. No bottom paint lasts that long (or looks that pretty). As for hull blisters, I am not sure, but my F26 has a solid fiberglass hull that's at least 1/2" thick. How that would delaminate and blister is beyond me. I spent the bucks a few years ago and had the bottom stripped and epoxy coated then new bottom paint applied. Probably a waste of money for the first step.
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prowlersfish wrote:Independent test results anyone ?
Some boating magazine should test this stuff
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Paul - what are you using on your props, shafts, struts?

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petit zinc coat barnacle barrier

Prop speed is the best stuff I have seen but it is costly zinc coat is cheap and it seems to work , boat speed is close to the same as when it was put on in July 2010

20 bucks ( 2 cans ) vs 200 plus ( wholesale prices )
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I tried Prop Speed on my June 2009 haulout. What a PITA to do alone and $$. It's done ok....but I wouldn't do it again. Almost all of us short haul between painting hauls and that makes Paul's combo a better use of $. I've seen others doing it this way and they cerainly makes it from season to season just fine.
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risctaker wrote:I've done some substantial research on the cause and possible solutions of hull blistering. The following link is one of the better sources of information:

http://marinesurvey.com/yacht/blisters.htm
What an informative read. Are Trojans prone to blisters? Does the use of vinylester resins instaed of polyester resins reduce the incidence of blisters?
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Trojans are not prone to blisters.
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prowlersfish wrote:petit zinc coat barnacle barrier

Prop speed is the best stuff I have seen but it is costly zinc coat is cheap and it seems to work , boat speed is close to the same as when it was put on in July 2010

20 bucks ( 2 cans ) vs 200 plus ( wholesale prices )
2ea. 16oz spray cans like this?

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Where did you get 2 cans for $20?

Per Pettit site:

"Zinc Coat Barnacle Barrier 1792 provides easy to use aerosol spray protection for bare metals including steel, stainless steel, cast iron, copper, bronze, galvanized steel, and lead. It forms an excellent bond to underwater metals and running gear, and inhibits corrosion on these surfaces. Zinc Coat Barnacle Barrier’s smooth, hard surface will self-clean in service, and can be used above or below the waterline. The dried film of Zinc Coat contains 93% pure zinc."
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