Your opinions, what IS this boat? Year/length/hull?

upstatedon · Post by **upstatedon** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:40 pm

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1973/Tr ... ted-States

We've been watching this boat for awhile now, and noticed another thread here with many differing opinions. Broker has it listed as a wood hull, 1973, 47'. I'm not convinced.... it looks much bigger, and does not look wood to me. Another poster stated that it IS fiberglass, but I don't see how a broker could make such a big mistake.

I'm just not finding anything on a 1973 wooden hull 47' Trojan, so it seems that something about it isn't correct. Your thoughts?

We have a 36' 1974 Tri Cabin now, looking for a liveaboard with a bit more room.

Thanks!

Post by **Moderator** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:45 pm

It is not a F47 as it is wood hull .

upstatedon · Post by **upstatedon** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:18 pm

I'm thinking it may be a Trojan Hilton 50, largest wooden boat they made.

Still researching....

Stripermann2 · Post by **Stripermann2** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:38 pm

Definetly not an F series...nice looking though.

This is the very reason why I wish Bob or Don would participate from time to time in our discussions. They should know... and could solve some of life's mysteries!

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:45 pm

Bob would know . ( Don is the I T Guy )

upstatedon · Post by **upstatedon** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:58 pm

Where's Bob?

OK, Found that they made the Hilton in a 47, 50 and 53...

If it's a Hilton, I'd say it's a pretty rare boat.

Commissionpoint · Post by **Commissionpoint** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:40 pm

We were definately talking about this boat a few weeks back. Paul pointed out its not an F boat (not fiberglass) and I said it was not a 1973. Thats about as far as we got.

Commissionpoint · Post by **Commissionpoint** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:41 am

http://www.classicadshop.com/productdet ... p5?id=2436

Looks sumthin like this rite?

I believe the Hilton moniker was a marketing ploy suggesting accomodations similar to those found in the successful hotel chain. I wonder if they had to pay a fee to use that name.

upstatedon · Post by **upstatedon** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:51 am

Yep, looks very much like that, except the aft cabin windows aren't the same, which tells me it must be a different year. Can't believe it's so hard to find info on this year/model. Thanks for your help!

Torcan · Post by **Torcan** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:03 am

I e-mailed the Yacht Broker asking if it was wood hull or fiberglass

He said it was a wooden hull but the paperwork has F-47 on it

Seems to me, after all the discussions here that somewhere along the road, somebody screwed up the paperwork.

Commissionpoint · Post by **Commissionpoint** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:11 am

No Prob. I have seen that vessel listed for awhile now aas well, and I knew something was hinkey with the description. I still like the F-44 better.

rossjo · Post by **rossjo** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:56 am

in 1973, Trojan Yachts offered the following, large wooden boats:

42' Motor Yacht - http://boatspecs.iboats.com/Trojan_Yach ... p/66b98264,

47' Motor Yacht - http://boatspecs.iboats.com/Trojan_Yach ... p/66b98271, Power:
- 620 hp diesel with 2 engines ( 310 hp diesel per engine)
  640 hp diesel with 2 engines ( 320 hp diesel per engine)
  650 hp with 2 engines ( 325 hp per engine)
  660 hp with 2 engines ( 330 hp per engine)
53' Motor Yacht - http://boatspecs.iboats.com/Trojan_Yach ... p/66b98275

53' Deck House Salon Motor Yacht (This was converted to fiberglass by 1977) - http://boatspecs.iboats.com/Trojan_Yach ... p/66b98130

Iboats also lists a 50' Motor Yacht in 1973, but Trojan doesn't show it on their list. http://boatspecs.iboats.com/Trojan_Yach ... /54br1516y

Unfortunately, NadaGuides only goes back to 1977, but the biggest boat they list is a 48' Trawler. Ever see one?
http://www.nadaguides.com/Boats/1977/Trojan-Yacht

aaronbocknek · Post by **aaronbocknek** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:18 pm

upstatedon wrote:I'm thinking it may be a Trojan Hilton 50, largest wooden boat they made.

Still researching....

the advert added hilton to convey luxury accomodations, as a play on words. the boat is just a trojan. there was never a 'trojan hilton' motor yacht. just a trojan motor yacht.

tri cabin aaron

Commissionpoint · Post by **Commissionpoint** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:40 pm

aaronbocknek wrote:
upstatedon wrote:I'm thinking it may be a Trojan Hilton 50, largest wooden boat they made.

Still researching....
the advert added hilton to convey luxury accomodations, as a play on words. the boat is just a trojan. there was never a 'trojan hilton' motor yacht. just a trojan motor yacht.

tri cabin aaron

I was inclined to agree with you Aaron, but had to edit my post after reading the fine print in the 1971 ad. It seems indeed they called it the Trojan Hilton , and not just as an advertizing ploy aimed at drawing a correlary to the hotel chain, but as a semi-official model name. In my world its still a 47, 50, or 53 Motor Yacht, but apparantly at least the 50 was indeed called the Trojan Hilton, and not just in the marketing realm.

Commissionpoint · Post by **Commissionpoint** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:43 pm

rossjo wrote:Unfortunately, NadaGuides only goes back to 1977, but the biggest boat they list is a 48' Trawler. Ever see one?

Not in person, but one is currently listed for sale on Yachtworld. Do a search. Its an interesting model.