seat question

guglielmo6160 · Post by **guglielmo6160** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:05 pm

anybody have a line on where I can find a similar to factory swing down seat set up

thanks

LandVF36 · Post by **LandVF36** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:27 pm

Check here. I think these seats were orginally made by Garelick Manufacturing. They still make this model which was used in on the rear deck for a fishing seat
http://www.garelick.com/product.php?pnumber=48099

and what they call "helmsman seating" with the fold down brackets
http://www.garelick.com/prodcat.php?subid=CB09
http://www.garelick.com/product.php?pnumber=48920

guglielmo6160 · Post by **guglielmo6160** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:24 am

thanks, that really helps, they dont have any prices online, I guess Ill call them tommorrow,,(that can only mean there expensive,,lol)

gjrylands · Post by **gjrylands** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:12 pm

Bill,
The first seat pictured is simalar to the original seat, but lacks a backrest You will want one. The original seat had a hinge that allowed the backrest to fold down and lay flat on the seat. There was a strap and snap that held the seat in the closed posistion. When the seat was in the down posistion the strap held the backrest from flopping around. The hardware holding and supporting the seat and consists of the following:
1. The hinge: They were a large chrome plated bronze piece the shaped something like a butterfly. It had a range of motion of about 100 degrees. In the open posistion there was a stop built into it. This is what held the backrest upright. This is the heart of the seat. It needed to be strong to support the pressure of bouncing off the backrest in rough water. (Some Boats manufactures used aluminum hinges.)
2. The legs: They were 7/8 stainless tube shaped in a large U. The leg was about 30" long (height determined by the height of the brackets mounted on the cabin wall) and about 14" wide (determined by the width of the seat). On the botton of the seat were 2 - 90 degree rail fittings spaced the same distance as the width as the U. The leg slid into the rail fitting to support the seat when up. To lower the seat, you simply lifted the seat and removed the leg and allowed the seat to fold down to the cabin wall. (The leg on the port side had a foot rest that I explained in an earlier posting.)(2 straigt pieces of stainles tube on each seat would work. Put a chair tip cup on each leg to protect the deck.)
3.The seat attachment: They were made of 7/8" stainlss tube. The helm seat and mates seat attachment brackets were not the same. The mates attachment was a U shaped piece. The bottom of the U slipped onto the brackets mounted on the cabin wall. The legs of the U wre screwed to the bottom of the seat. The combination formed a hinge that allowed the seat to be raised or lowered. The mates seat was not adjustable. If it was the cup for the foot rest wouldn't work. The helms seat were 3 pieces of tube welded together to form a double tee. The legs of the tee screwed to the bottom of the seat. The top of the tee rested in the brackets on the cabin wall. This arangement allowed the seat to be adjustable, sliding forward or back.
4. The mounting brackets. These are the brackets you have mounted on the cabin wall.

I told you all of that so I could tell you this. Many boats used this design other that trojans. I know Christcraft used this design in many of there models. You should be able to find the parts in a boatyard and have the seat made. Don't worry obout the condition of the upholstery it can be redone, you want the parts. The seats aren't anything more than upholstered plywood with padding. As I stated before, The hinge is the key. Find 2 sets and the rest can be made.

guglielmo6160 · Post by **guglielmo6160** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:17 pm

thanks Gerry, that helps, thats more info than Ill ever need, Im gonna call that company and see what their price is,
if not there is a boat yard close by my Marina where I can dig around
thanks again

duchess · Post by **duchess** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:55 am

I had a 1967 31 foot trojan that had a pair of these there were a pair of them for sale on the old beacon web site that were in decent condition. the legs did not go to the side but rested on the hatch as described in another post here .

guglielmo6160 · Post by **guglielmo6160** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:32 am

do you have the link to that website?

captainmaniac · Post by **captainmaniac** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:49 am

Here's the best shot I could find of what I think is the right seat style ... (if the URL works right)

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/ ... id=1974921

gjrylands · Post by **gjrylands** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:17 pm

A picture's worth a 1000 words. Those are exactly the seats I was trying to describe.

rossjo · Post by **rossjo** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:38 pm

1976 Trojan 26 HARDTOP

http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/9/7/4/9/1974921_4.jpg

LandVF36 · Post by **LandVF36** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:30 pm

OK, its those seats. When you were talking about the "fold down" seats, I thought you were talking about the small seats that were installed on some boats at the transom.

I do not have not stake in Garelick, but if you can't find parts at a boat scrap yard, they do have those as well.
Here is the seat
http://www.garelick.com/product.php?pnumber=40116
which comes in 24" and 28" widths and this is the side mounts and stand
http://www.garelick.com/product.php?pnumber=75055

guglielmo6160 · Post by **guglielmo6160** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:58 pm

hey guys thanks for all the pictures etc, Im gonna try to put something together soon, I have to contact garelick and find out what their price is, if tis not out of control, Ill probaly replace them with new ones,