Your opinions, what IS this boat? Year/length/hull?

[prowlersfish]

I would say its a safe bet to say its a Trojan 47 .

[summer storm]

Whaever it is I will tell you this, and this comes from over 10 years running large (106 ft to 114 ft) wooden yachts. The price to buy this boat is going to be just the start of a huge money drain.

1. Insurance is going to be a pain to get
2. There will never be a quick haul, paint, and launch and these boats need a railway, not a travel lift.
3. You could be sitting on the aft deck and all of a sudden a garboard starts to leak and needs replacing. A boat that size= 8k to 10K
4. A wooden boat that is tight in the harbor will very quickly open up in rough weather, if she is not maintained to the 9's
5. I would put maintenance costs at three times that of fiberglass, and I am not talking about repairs.
6. Alot of yards will not even haul a large wooden boat anymore.

Take a look at moores marine's web page http://www.woodenboatrepair.com to get a idea of normal bottom repairs.

Please don't get me wrong, I love these old woooden boats, they have a nice warm feel about them. When you pull in everyone in the marina will come down and comment on your classic yacht, but again they are not paying for it. And for the record I wasn't paying for it either, my boss was, and he was a millionare many many times over.


Here is a video of a old one, but a well maintained one, being worked on. listen to the first words the cammeraman says-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_-0ozHL ... autoplay=1

[prowlersfish]

I will have to disagree on a few points

No problem hauling a wood boat with a travel lift unless its very poor condition . I have hauled many of them just got to know what your doing.

One of the main reasons many marinas won't haul them is a lot of folks haul them and get over whelmed and the marina gets stuck with a boat .

A sudden leak that cost 8 grand to repair ? I have a hard time with that

[summer storm]

A sudden leak that cost 8 grand to repair ? I have a hard time with that

Well Paul, I've been there and done that and it cost alot more than 8 grand. The last one I had repaired cost just over 20K, but that was on a 114 ft yacht. What I figured for a 47 footer was 2 men at 85 per hour for 40 hours, which is 6,800 just in labor. With garboard replacement you will also have to remove part of the interior near the keel for the bolts which may or may not be a nightmare.

I will change my earlier statement from "all of a sudden" to "at a certain point" that leak will need to be fixed.

[prowlersfish]

That was my point I would not think a garboard would suddenly fail on a mantaned boat . wood goes bad but not all of a sudden.

I do agree it could be very costly

[Norgee]

Fun to see these posts from years ago on this 1973 47ft Trojan. We bought this boat last summer and it has been great! I joined this site months ago when we bought it but this is my first post. I appreciate all the tidbits of information you've shared with me these last few months. It is indeed a wood hull and it was re-powered with 1986 GM454s. Runs great and is truly a beautiful vessel. The hull numbers have confused the insurance brokers. The plate says 602-3014. The engraving on the beam in the engine bilge says NO580463. Someone said insurance would be an issue and that's proven true. The last survey was 4 years ago which came back very solid. That, and the fact I don't have many hrs under my belt on a vessel of this size, might cause me some trouble this spring getting it back in the marina. I don't know if any of the original contributors of this post are still here but I hope to learn much more from you guys. I'm sure I will have a lot of questions! I love this Forum!

[prowlersfish]

Welcome to the forum

The hull numbers have confused the insurance brokers. The plate says 602-3014. The engraving on the beam in the engine bilge says NO580463. !

The Trojan hull number is 602-3014 the other number "The engraving on the beam in the engine bilge says NO580463" is a USCG documentation number . should be NO. 580463 . this means the boat is or was CG documented at one time .Looking at the documentation site it has not been documented for sometime . .and for I believe $25 you can order a abstract of title from the Coast Guard . That would give you a list past owners and names while under documentation . I can post the info on where to send for it if you like .
here its what I found using that Number
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Data found in current database.

Vessel Name: MY MISTRESS USCG Doc. No.: 580463
Vessel Service: RECREATIONAL IMO Number: *
Trade Indicator: Recreational Call Sign: *
Hull Material: WOOD Hull Number: *
Ship Builder: * Year Built: 1973

Length (ft.): 47
Hailing Port: * Hull Depth (ft.): 2
Owner: Hull Breadth (ft.): 14.9
Gross Tonnage: 37
Net Tonnage: 29
Documentation Issuance Date: * Documentation Expiration Date: *

Previous Vessel Names: No Vessel Name Changes Previous Vessel Owners:

[Norgee]

Thanks for the reply! That's good information. I'll check out the USCG records. It's not just about owning something like this. If it was just about owning something, the money could be better spent, I'm sure. Much of the pleasure comes from learning about the history of such a craft and increases the joy we get from spending time on her. Every bit of information we can get adds pleasure to it all.

[prowlersfish]

https://www.uscg.mil/hq/cg5/nvdc/

[Norgee]

Here is my Google Photo Album link to our 47' Trojan. I'm a little intimidated by this vessel but Geico insured me so I'm optimistic that I can enjoy her now that spring has come. Got the survey done and all's good. We are looking forward to retiring and living on her in about a year.

https://goo.gl/photos/MpRoh3VhTefboG9Y6

[RWS]

the sinking of a beautiful 55' Constellation PIZAZZ one APPARENTLY awesome looking boat:

http://michiganshipwrecks.org/shipwreck ... nd/pizzazz

http://www.boatered.com/forum/topic.asp ... hichpage=2

sad story

RWS

[oil&water]

Just looked through your album. Wow, she is a gorgeous vessel! The wife and I looked very hard at a '69 Maritime Concorde 47' that was an all glass hull. Very similar layout and hull style, but no where near as beautiful as this wooden lady. I hope she provides many years of wonderful service as your home and cruising platform.

[prowlersfish]

Here is my Google Photo Album link to our 47' Trojan. I'm a little intimidated by this vessel but Geico insured me so I'm optimistic that I can enjoy her now that spring has come. Got the survey done and all's good. We are looking forward to retiring and living on her in about a year.

https://goo.gl/photos/MpRoh3VhTefboG9Y6

Congrats , One fine looking boat . Wood boats are great , but you need to be 100% on keeping then maintained . Being under cover helps .

[Barrie]

That is an awesome looking boat!

[WayWeGo]

She's a real beauty, inside and out!