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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:54 am
by reelfishin
Prowlersfish, with the economy right now that is just pocket change. I will probably get two of them just so I will have a spare.
I do hear what you are saying. Boats like that are not cheap. I do think that a little more thought could go into the boat design and still keep the price down. Ofcourse talk is cheap. Doing is another thing.
I have been on boats that the flybridge is so big you have to use a camera to see the stern. I personally would not like that for fishing. A captain needs to know what is going on behind him and be able to look back and see it. I do it all the time when trolling.
We have so many boats fishing in some area's that not being able to see good could cause a problem. I think the boat pictured is a good example on how to do it right. I think you can see the cockpit area and the bow. I also love the Hardtop. Somebody was thinking. Even with curtains that boat would be a dream to operate.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:50 pm
by JuiceClark
reelfishin wrote: ....Now looking at the picture of the boat. It really is a nice boat. Here is my thoughts when I go on a boats flybridge. Can I see the cockpit?
Can I see the bow? All from the captain seat. Fishing you need to see the cockpit for sure. Docking you need to see the stern and the bow.
Next thing is the width of the boat. I would not have anything less than a 14 foot wide boat. Handling improves quite a bit over a 12 foot wide boat and the inside gives a lot more room.
One thing the boating industry has not been able to do I think is close the flybridge in with glass. No canvas. I think it could be done just have not figured it out yet. LOL
I agree and you'll find similar sentiments from a lot of Trojan owners - especially about beaminess. This boat has a 46' hull and a 17' beam.
http://www.britestaryachts.com
It stays wide as the beam at the transom is still 15'. We figured if somebody planes in open seas all day they can buy a Bertram or Hatteras. But most like to fish, cruise, etc and want a wider boat with a flatter bottom aft and a sharp entry.
A cool option on this is that you can just press a button on the helm and the front of the flybridge will open and have 3 steps down to the foredeck. So, no more having to go back down and around. If trolling or messing around, you can just leave it down. Here's the mechanism that we'll use to make the stair - it's the 24" wide version. Massive 6' versions are used on the transoms of mega yachts:
http://www.opacmare.com/ixProduct.jsp?i ... MenuId=316
We've also offered a telescoping gangplank from that same company. So, you don't have to have a dive platform to get in the way but you can still get easily on the dock. This baby pops right out of a little door on the transom:
http://www.opacmare.com/ixProduct.jsp?i ... MenuId=348
We're using a different company for our door/windows into the salon from the cockpit...but have the hydraulic window by the rear galley as an option. This would be a cool way to snazz-up your Trojan!:
http://www.opacmare.com/ixProduct.jsp?i ... MenuId=367
or
http://www.opacmare.com/ixProduct.jsp?i ... MenuId=367
About the enclosed bridge:
I think the new Maritimo did a very nice job with the layout including the galley back as well as the enclosed bridge:
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2008/Ma ... ted-States
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:20 pm
by reelfishin
I did check the site out and the websites posted.
Hmm that is a impressive boat. Looks like the company is doing it right. I do see that there is alot to do when making a boat that size. Start generic and then add the features a buyer would like. I still like the simple clean design. I believe that will help in fuel and maintenace of the boat. I think a lot of thought has gone into that boat. It has addressed many design problems with some of the battle wagons I have seen.
That boat could also easily be a cruising boat too. Looks like comfort and fishing at the time. I hope to see one in the water one of these days.