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Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:37 am
by RWS
The percieved "value" is in the name and that brand's reputation as a high end builder.
Sad to say but the Trojan "brand" name has a declining ongoing value as there is no longer a company to stand behind it, service it or to promote it.
Another orphaned brand.
This is a product that does not benefit from the "nostalgia" value that helps something like a Pontiac Firebird.
We're more like a Studebaker Avanti.
A product ahead of it's time, with advanced desgn features that became an orphaned brand.
No longer well recognized by the general public, but known by "enthusiasts"
RWS
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:57 am
by prowlersfish
RWS how very true and sad . I would never say bertram in ad to sell my boat ( and I have seen a F36 caller a trojan bertran by sellers ) but if I had internatal that was for sale that was a" Bertram/trojan" in name I would sure would as people pay for a name , but I would never say its a bertram hull . I seen may owners think its the same Hull . Guess they never seen a Betram out of the water. or been on a Bertram bottom fishing on a choppy day (rock and roll) .
Re: Trojan/Bertram ???????????
Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 5:21 pm
by GENLEIGH
READ YOUR TROJAN / BERTRAM REPLIES. I HAVE AN F-32 WITH BERTRAM / TROJAN ON THE
METAL MFR PLATE IN CABIN. MINE IS A 1991, HULL #3. WITH CTR ISLAND BERTH. I BELIEVE IT
IS VERY RARE. OWNER SINCE 2002.
Re: Trojan/Bertram ???????????
Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:41 pm
by summer storm
Hello and welcome to the forum. You have one last F32's built. The center line berth was added towards the end of a very long production run that started in 1973.
Re: Trojan/Bertram ???????????
Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:55 pm
by yorklyn
I know my boat is a "Trojan-Bertram" in name only but the pic of the 11 meter floating around with the "snazzy " gold Bertram logo on the radar arch was pretty sharp! LOL

Re: Trojan/Bertram ???????????
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 12:18 pm
by lawyerdave71
I like my Trojan but I would LOVE a Bertram.
To me Bertrams are like Rolls Royces!!
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 5:44 pm
by alexander38
[quote="chauzer"]so which boats did they build in polaski?[/quote]
Good ones !.......

Re: Trojan/Bertram ???????????
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 5:52 pm
by BobCT
Guys, don't let the Bertram name get you down. It's not a Trojan but they make a decent boat too

Re: Trojan/Bertram ???????????
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 5:59 pm
by Stripermann2
Re: Trojan/Bertram ???????????
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:14 pm
by prowlersfish
Trojan by Trojan !! anything else is a want to be

or also ran
Real Boats made in PA !
Re: Trojan/Bertram ???????????
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:28 pm
by RWS
DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE NOW EXISTS THAT NO HUMAN BEING WAS CAPABLE OF DESIGNING AND ENGINEERING BOATS AS GOOD AS TROJANS.
THE EMPIRICAL DATUM CONFIRMS THAT THE DESIGNS WERE HANDED DOWN FROM ALIEN BEINGS FROM A TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED CIVILIZATION.
ITS THE AMISH - INTERGALACTICAL CONNECTION.
RWS
Re: Trojan/Bertram ???????????
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:34 pm
by prowlersfish
RWS wrote:DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE NOW EXISTS THAT NO HUMAN BEING WAS CAPABLE OF DESIGNING AND ENGINEERING BOATS AS GOOD AS TROJANS.
THE EMPIRICAL DATUM CONFIRMS THAT THE DESIGNS WERE HANDED DOWN FROM ALIEN BEINGS FROM A TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED CIVILIZATION.
ITS THE AMISH - INTERGALACTICAL CONNECTION.
RWS
HEY !! That Classified info !! Why do you think Bertram and others try and use the name shhh .
Re: Trojan/Bertram ???????????
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:53 pm
by yorklyn
http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/bertr ... -63-a.html
Havent seen this happen on a Trojan-Bertram international!

Re: Trojan/Bertram ???????????
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 7:46 pm
by summer storm
It happened to another Bertram too but that one sank off the coast.
Re: Trojan/Bertram ???????????
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:22 pm
by lawyerdave71
I would gladly give up my 1978 Trojan F30 flybridge express for a 1986 54 foot Bertram Convertible!!!!