a/c under the seat

[alexander38]

ok guys it's time to back off and let him do as he wishes, and we DON'T have to stoop to name calling we all knew that his mind would not be changed, He'll find out the hard way we can only hope no one gets hurt, and I have to ad this window a/c thing will not work. And yes I'm qualified to say so I was an ac/reefer tech in the Navy. But I do wish you luck with it.

[wowzer52]

Ready, insulting people isn't going to help anyone. A personal attack on someones intelligence and being negative (about anything in life) never accomplished any good. Having individual ideas is not stupid, (look up stupid in the dictionary). In the last couple of years I have heard you say some pretty stupid things to other people through your insults and have never said a word because the way to success and friendship is through encouragement. I'm sure most here will agree that we all have learned and accomplished more through encouragement than through insults. You've heard this before, If you don't like a topic don't read it. We don't need insulting contention. We need incouraging friendship....think about it.... nuff sed......

[MTP]

Ready, insulting people isn't going to help anyone. A personal attack on someones intelligence and being negative (about anything in life) never accomplished any good. Having individual ideas is not stupid, (look up stupid in the dictionary). In the last couple of years I have heard you say some pretty stupid things to other people through your insults and have never said a word because the way to success and friendship is through encouragement. I'm sure most here will agree that we all have learned and accomplished more through encouragement than through insults. You've heard this before, If you don't like a topic don't read it. We don't need insulting contention. We need encouraging friendship....think about it.... nuff sed......

I agree with stupid.......

[9rock]

Another Idea would be a portable type A/C unit that uses a hose to vent the hot air out side . This would do exactly what you what at a cost just a little more then a window unit. The only draw back is it may take up too much room . You may not be looking for advice But I would hate to see you do all that work only to have something that won't work . I have seen window units installed in boats ( I have done 2) . I have seen them done in ways you would not believe , some work some do not.

this is the type of unit I am talking about that vents outside you can find similar types at Lowe's and home depot and many other places
http://www.air-conditioner-home.com/Sol ... -07R-62DB/

This is not the first time I have done a project that was met be such scepticism and Im sure it wont be the last,

We rehab ed our wood dead rise I was told I could not use water based paints , they will never hold up I was told time and time again by all the waterman who have owned these boats for years,I was making a mistake after extensive research and planning , I pulled the trigger . putting on a 100% acrylic emulsion roof system on the top of the helm and cabin and brought it down tied it in under the rub rail and painted the rest of the hull above the water line in acrylic latex house paint, now I just sit back and laugh as they all are out there repainting their boats and fixing leaks from their roofs , and we pressure wash ours and touch up and it looks like I painted it yesterday,

I never do a project with out extensive research this one is no different
I don't not get discouraged because some one else has tried and failed
I make part of my living taking on projects other contractors say cant be done so its not my first rodeo, the risk reward factor is heavily weighted on the reward side I already had built the chase wall as part of my dinner rehab I already have a circuit there for the unit, taking
out one drawer is no big deal could use the teak where I cut out the starboard closet I can pull in and out 235cfms of air for about 2amps so its hardly a problem

I will know in a hour of use with a heat gun on weather or not the compressor is running to hot,
Its not rocket science

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[9rock]

No not looking for assistance or for someone to agree just posting a project no more no less

With that attitude I'm trying my best (but failed) to not say anything... Why do you think we would have any interest in just reading about your stupid idea and say nothing

We need to protect anyone else from thinking it is a good idea.... our intent is not to protect you from your own stupidity because it is obvious that is a lost cause.

do you work at being a idiot or does it come natural

I responded to someone else's negitive remarks I am not here to argue and make enemies but I can certaily handle myself in that department if need be


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[9rock]

thank god I am not a architect or I would go broke
but this shows the plan we will know in a couple of months the fate of this project if it fails I will be glad to stand up and say it was a idea that did not not work no such thing as a bad Idea
heating and cooling reverse cycle hi efficiency self evaporating unit if I can find one that small

like this but with rear discharge
This 7,000 BTU window room heat/cool air conditioner is designed to cool approximately 280 square feet. That's a 14 ft. x 20 ft. room! 7,000 BTU (cool) & 3,850 BTU (heating). Fits windows 22 in. to 36 in. and 14 in. H. Energy efficiency rating 9.7. Features: 4-way air deflection; two cooling and two fan only speeds; remote control. 5 year warranty covers parts, labor and compressor. 115 volt.

Electronic controls
Remote control
4-way air deflection
Side discharge
MFG Brand Name : LG Electronics
MFG Model # : LWHD7000HR
MFG Part # : LWHD7000HR
Savings Center : New Lower Prices
amp draw 6.6


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[prowlersfish]

9rock
It's not the compeser I worry about its about the the hot air from the back of the unit(condenser) if it is not removed then the unit can not transfer the heat and therefor can not cool . if you have plenty of air flow it will cool if you don't it will not very simple , your engineers statement that all you need is a small vent( for the out side) is what worries me . and leave me with worries about his training in HVAC , of course his idea of a small vent maybe a lot larger then mine .

looking at your drawing it will work but only if you use a fan/bolower to exhust the hot air

Don't forget away for the unit to drain .

[9rock]

9rock
It's not the compeser I worry about its about the the hot air from the back of the unit(condenser) if it is not removed then the unit can not transfer the heat and therefor can not cool . if you have plenty of air flow it will cool if you don't it will not very simple , your engineers statement that all you need is a small vent( for the out side) is what worries me . and leave me with worries about his training in HVAC , of course his idea of a small vent maybe a lot larger then mine .

looking at your drawing it will work but only if you use a fan/bolower to exhust the hot air

Don't forget away for the unit to drain .

Small vent i am referring to is on the side of the unit if I have to dial in the unit ,not exhaust vent I have a lot off room for a vent in the hull and chase is 4 1/2 deep x 24 wide so there is a lot off room for hot air to escape , and I can add a blower fan as in my drawing to aid this if need be . one slightly smaller on the intake side for fresh air ,

I saw a refrigerator compressor unit in the west marine catalog that had a transfer box built on the back and a 4" flex duct attached but my chase offers more volume of airflow , the unit is self evaporating no drain needed in theory it works whether or not it works in real time we will know soon enough wont be the first failed project and I am sure it wont be the last since I like a challenge and now that I have been told I am stupid I am even more driven to make this system work

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[jimbo36]

Stupid is, stupid does. Forrest Gump.

[prowlersfish]

9 , I never said you were stupid .

I have not heard of a self evaporating window a/c

[guglielmo6160]

hey guys,, its not rocket science, I am currently running a window unit in the old factory mounted area that used to house the original unit, and it works fine, of course the bathroom is kinda hot, (and probably has more air around it than venting it) but the rest of the cabin is cool, with no issues, so I dont see a problem venting it into the bilge area, etc, especially considering the cost of a window unit , and there is something to be said about economy. Not everyone has a couple of grand to install the "marine unit" In my previous boat I did something similar to what he is doing and had no issues, even if it shortens the life of the a/c unit, who cares, there super cheap these days, I saw real nice ones with remote in home depot for 79.00 bucks, so who cares how long it lasts, even if you had to buy a new one every year,,,lol some of you guys take this "by the book stuff a little to far,, dont you think?

[prowlersfish]

Bet you don't waste time in the head

[9rock]

9 , I never said you were stupid .

I have not heard of a self evaporating window a/c

I was not referring to you , I have not found a self evaporating unit that small yet ,smallest I found was 13k btu but draining is not that big of issue if need be
I have the unit they had in the bulk head I can take out the top support for the drawer and drop it in with no cutting its a 5k sufficient for the cabin area so i will test that if i dont like the results i will go to a portable unit and duct it out thru the same chase no harm no foul no money lost

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[prowlersfish]

good luck summer is on its way

[larglo]

Go for it, 9rock,,,I'm behind you 110%

Larry