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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:06 pm
by jefflaw35
MadBen wrote:I generally refrain from these types of conversations due to the fact that most everyone who has a strong opinion believes they are right. It is a lose lose because I am right. And I know it!
:lol: 8) i know right

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:22 pm
by alexander38
Peter wrote:Hey, there are still some progressives out there. The last time I spoke up however, I got my head bitten off. The converstion degenerated,and my words were missunderstood and twisted.

I'll keep my well reasoned,thoughtfull,educated opinions to myself,and continue to avoid getting my facts from sources dedicated to makeing money from political "hatertainment",... and " Big fat idiots"

:D
Hi Peter, yes you got nailed hard and I had one of the hammers, But read your post, same O stuff, I be so smart and end in name calling...right off of MSNBC's play book....

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:03 pm
by Commissionpoint
alexander38 wrote:right off of MSNBC's play book....
Yes thats the patented MSNBC move. Ed Schmaltz and Rachel Madcow are the worst offenders.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:04 am
by Peter
by "big fat idiots " I was refering to Rush... No offense meant and I hope none taken. I'll be following the board but not posting much.... time is money....ahhh... flu season, my favorite time of the year... :lol:

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:26 am
by alexander38
even at that , does the name calling help your argument ? Look what it done for him, instead instead calling that wantabe lawyer a Slut, he should should've have pointed out the facts that she wanted to have sex and have the U.S. taxpayer (the 49%) pay for it. instead of going to rite-aid and some some trojans (sorry no pun meant)..

and those flu shots whats the cost on those to us tax payers ?

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:51 am
by Peter
your right of course, name calling does nothing to inhance an argument.point taken.

On the other hand as far as the contraceptive issue goes.Denying coverage for contraception, is kind of like saying kids with acne shouldn't get acne meds covered.Why should we pay for them to look better? feel less self conscious?, more self confident? .

Why should we pay for mammograms ? they're not my boobs?I can't play with them...

and what about your prostate meds?.why should that be covered? why should women have to care about how often you have to get up at night to pee?

Sorry but Rush really is a big fat idiot..

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:18 pm
by prowlersfish
contraceptive is Need when you make a choice . No one has a choice about acme .

I pay for my health care why should paid for someone elses ?

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:23 pm
by jefflaw35
prowlersfish wrote:contraceptive is Need when you make a choice . No one has a choice about acme .

I pay for my health care why should paid for someone elses ?
+1

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:01 pm
by alexander38
Peter wrote:your right of course, name calling does nothing to inhance an argument.point taken.

On the other hand as far as the contraceptive issue goes.Denying coverage for contraception, is kind of like saying kids with acne shouldn't get acne meds covered.Why should we pay for them to look better? feel less self conscious?, more self confident? .

Why should we pay for mammograms ? they're not my boobs?I can't play with them...

and what about your prostate meds?.why should that be covered? why should women have to care about how often you have to get up at night to pee?

Sorry but Rush really is a big fat idiot..

Lets cover your points.
Birth control is a choice, I'd go as far for some women it's needed to take the pain of the cycle once a month, 3 women in the house I know of what I speak, And I paid for it. but as for other needs not a Medical issue and it's their responsibility not the public as a whole.

Acne O hell no! Go to rite-aid and get some Phosphate soap and some Clearasil I did it and no scars...and as the look better self esteem hog wash that's why we have a Country full of WUSSES and hand out takers

Mammograms- Yes insurance should cover those, This is a life saving test it's a NEED not a WANT . This is one of those you right wingers hate women things the left is always ready to use honesty Peter is tired line.

Old guys that can't piss, Prostate Meds can't comment on that, I check in to the need and why and effects and get back to ya, But right now I'd say no.

and as far as Rush goes, So me One person on the left that's on the radio or tv who he couldn't out debate...there's not IMPO

Where we differ on this is you see gov't health care as a piggy bank, I see it as you stealing from my piggy bank,

the law student is a perfect case, She's going to Georgetown for god sake and she wants a guy and gals to pay for pills so she can get laid on the weekend..and that's the blunt truth..and it's BS..

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:11 pm
by jefflaw35
birth control. just paid 150$ with insurance for the stent in arm on 2 girls, last 3 years, alot cheaper than pills that girls cant remember to take.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:43 pm
by rmatt
and what about your prostate meds?.why should that be covered? why should women have to care about how often you have to get up at night to pee?



Old guys that can't piss, Prostate Meds can't comment on that, I check in to the need and why and effects and get back to ya, But right now I'd say no.

So when you get old like I did at 57 and the Doc says you can't pee because you have prostate cancer. Tell me how your going to think about it then.
Bob

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:42 pm
by alexander38
rmatt wrote:and what about your prostate meds?.why should that be covered? why should women have to care about how often you have to get up at night to pee?



Old guys that can't piss, Prostate Meds can't comment on that, I check in to the need and why and effects and get back to ya, But right now I'd say no.

So when you get old like I did at 57 and the Doc says you can't pee because you have prostate cancer. Tell me how your going to think about it then.
Bob
then Bob you have Cancer, not just an enlarged Prostate, And treatment of Cancer is a Need not a Want, and I'm getting to the age the these things are a concern to me I'll be 50 in 5 months, and have a Wife that's on my a$$ now to go get my A$$ and other things checked for Biz insurance reasons. And guess what the life time health care that I was promised for severing OUR country doesn't cover it, so I'll gladly pay it because I feel no one else should pay for MY health nor I theirs.
If you or your Employer's policy cover the Med's great. But where does a person have a right to dip in to my pocket and take my work from me for their needs or wants...at the end of a gov't gun ?

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:02 pm
by rmatt
First let me say I don't agree with the taxpayer paying for birth control pills. Just saying it's not always the way it looks. For example Viagra is not covered even if your problem is cancer related. Should it be? Not my idea to have cancer.
Bob

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:30 pm
by alexander38
and it shouldn't be, it can be had off the net for a fraction of the drug store price as will as the BC pills, But if I was shopping for insurance and types of Cancers ran in my gene pool I'd pick the coverage that fit my needs....oops we can't do that can we , do to the govt' sayin' no...

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:18 am
by Captain Blast Off
you guys are all forgetting this whole issue started when Obama began telling the churches they had to provide birth control no matter what their belief is. When people rose up he then changed the narrative to womens health which is bull.

The real issue is we have a president that acts like a dictator; going around Congress whenever he can't get a vote; god knows how many Czars that circumvent the Senate confirmation process; imposes mandates that private citizens must purchase healthcare; runs our 747 all over hell and back taking his wife on dates and making campaign trips and I could keep going on for hours. He is a job killer; an economic disaster and a wanna be social engineer.

My oldest son is Marine Corp E.O.D.; my Daughter in Law is Air Force E.O.D.; my second eldest son served 4 years in the Marine Corp; all have seen action and have had close friends lost on foreign ground; I cannot stand to see this President bow to kings and apologize to our enemies while my kids are standing in harms way to keep him safe.

He needs to go now!