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Re: A small project or what have I gotten into

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:20 am
by prowlersfish
alexander38 wrote:
Big D wrote:Enough thinking, just do it, make that first cut, then you'll be committed. Committed to finish that is :lol: And you know Tony won't resist helping out.
I've offered up my help, Paul keeps telling me NO not on a bet! I just don't understand it.... I've got a real good new chainsaw from Wisconsin..... :mrgreen:
And you wonder why I keep my boat at a gated marina ?? :D

Re: A small project or what have I gotten into

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:33 am
by Big D
alexander38 wrote:
Big D wrote:Enough thinking, just do it, make that first cut, then you'll be committed. Committed to finish that is :lol: And you know Tony won't resist helping out.
I've offered up my help, Paul keeps telling me NO not on a bet! I just don't understand it.... I've got a real good new chainsaw from Wisconsin..... :mrgreen:
It's because he has seen some of your pictures and you simply leave too many bottles lying around! He has an image at his marina to protect ya know :wink:

Re: A small project or what have I gotten into

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:38 pm
by alexander38
It helps with cutting straight lines.... :wink:

Re: A small project or what have I gotten into

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:48 pm
by prowlersfish
A step closer

Re: A small project or what have I gotten into

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:03 am
by alexander38
you'll need a back porch for that door.... :wink:

Re: A small project or what have I gotten into

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:26 am
by RWS
will this have any effect on structural integrity?

no

let's re-word this

I'm sure you have already determined that this will not affect structural integrity.

The question is how would a layman determine this about his own particular vessel?

RWS

Re: A small project or what have I gotten into

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:16 pm
by prowlersfish
Yes it will effect it . In a positive way . I have framed in area where the door will be , Also the inner hull liner/deck that was there is now a more structural part of the transom.

I know of 2 other Trojans that have done the something but with out the reinforcements I did with out issues .

How can a laymen determine this ? like the question Can I fix this myself ? It depends on your ability and understanding of what you are doing and how it effects the structure .

Re: A small project or what have I gotten into

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:25 pm
by prowlersfish
I will try and get some better photos the will show some of the reinforcement of the door area . Also Trojan put a cross the stern (rib ) to support the deck I also put another one right at lower part of the door opening and bonded ( glassed ) the deck to the transom .

Re: A small project or what have I gotten into

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:04 pm
by RWS
I was considering the lateral strenght of the entire stern.

port to starboard.

seems like cutting a notch out of this might weaken the port/starboard flexability factor?

Dunno, just a thought.......

But......

What about adding a "U" shaped aluminum member, say 3" or 4" tube welded together and then glassed into the "frame" - built in - integrated into the opening.

Just a thought,

H

Re: A small project or what have I gotten into

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:54 pm
by prowlersfish
The reinforcements are all glass and wood ( mostly marine ply) I could have put a metel U in place , but I saw no need . ( I had thought about it early on use SS) . In fact there was no reinforcement "ribs" above the floor area Trojan saw no need . The inner liner of the transom was just there , not even attached to the transom at all above the floor . It is now part of the stern support system , the area of the soon to be cut out it fully reinforced . I expect the transom to be much stronger then before this project . The planing and design has been well thought out . I have looked at many other doors both factory and refits to see weak points and good points . some were not beefed up much if at all ( factory ) basically a molded in hole in the transom. Other were very much strengthen in this area . Thats the course I took . My design is very simalar to the way Viking did theirs and they have done a few .

Re: A small project or what have I gotten into

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:25 am
by MattSC
Looking good Paul! Was the top cored, or solid glass?

Re: A small project or what have I gotten into

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:45 pm
by prowlersfish
It was cored with plywood .

Re: A small project or what have I gotten into

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:14 am
by alexander38
MORE PICS>>>>>>

Re: A small project or what have I gotten into

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:37 am
by prowlersfish
There was not much intrest so I quit takeing photos of the project .

Re: A small project or what have I gotten into

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:05 am
by RWS
I'm always interested in seeing what's behind all that pretty fiberglass and how it will all go back together !


RWS