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Re: A small project or what have I gotten into
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:20 am
by prowlersfish
alexander38 wrote:Big D wrote:Enough thinking, just do it, make that first cut, then you'll be committed. Committed to finish that is

And you know Tony won't resist helping out.
I've offered up my help, Paul keeps telling me NO not on a bet! I just don't understand it.... I've got a real good new chainsaw from Wisconsin.....

And you wonder why I keep my boat at a gated marina ??

Re: A small project or what have I gotten into
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:33 am
by Big D
alexander38 wrote:Big D wrote:Enough thinking, just do it, make that first cut, then you'll be committed. Committed to finish that is

And you know Tony won't resist helping out.
I've offered up my help, Paul keeps telling me NO not on a bet! I just don't understand it.... I've got a real good new chainsaw from Wisconsin.....

It's because he has seen some of your pictures and you simply leave too many bottles lying around! He has an image at his marina to protect ya know

Re: A small project or what have I gotten into
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:38 pm
by alexander38
It helps with cutting straight lines....

Re: A small project or what have I gotten into
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:48 pm
by prowlersfish
A step closer
Re: A small project or what have I gotten into
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:03 am
by alexander38
you'll need a back porch for that door....

Re: A small project or what have I gotten into
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:26 am
by RWS
will this have any effect on structural integrity?
no
let's re-word this
I'm sure you have already determined that this will not affect structural integrity.
The question is how would a layman determine this about his own particular vessel?
RWS
Re: A small project or what have I gotten into
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:16 pm
by prowlersfish
Yes it will effect it . In a positive way . I have framed in area where the door will be , Also the inner hull liner/deck that was there is now a more structural part of the transom.
I know of 2 other Trojans that have done the something but with out the reinforcements I did with out issues .
How can a laymen determine this ? like the question Can I fix this myself ? It depends on your ability and understanding of what you are doing and how it effects the structure .
Re: A small project or what have I gotten into
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:25 pm
by prowlersfish
I will try and get some better photos the will show some of the reinforcement of the door area . Also Trojan put a cross the stern (rib ) to support the deck I also put another one right at lower part of the door opening and bonded ( glassed ) the deck to the transom .
Re: A small project or what have I gotten into
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:04 pm
by RWS
I was considering the lateral strenght of the entire stern.
port to starboard.
seems like cutting a notch out of this might weaken the port/starboard flexability factor?
Dunno, just a thought.......
But......
What about adding a "U" shaped aluminum member, say 3" or 4" tube welded together and then glassed into the "frame" - built in - integrated into the opening.
Just a thought,
H
Re: A small project or what have I gotten into
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:54 pm
by prowlersfish
The reinforcements are all glass and wood ( mostly marine ply) I could have put a metel U in place , but I saw no need . ( I had thought about it early on use SS) . In fact there was no reinforcement "ribs" above the floor area Trojan saw no need . The inner liner of the transom was just there , not even attached to the transom at all above the floor . It is now part of the stern support system , the area of the soon to be cut out it fully reinforced . I expect the transom to be much stronger then before this project . The planing and design has been well thought out . I have looked at many other doors both factory and refits to see weak points and good points . some were not beefed up much if at all ( factory ) basically a molded in hole in the transom. Other were very much strengthen in this area . Thats the course I took . My design is very simalar to the way Viking did theirs and they have done a few .
Re: A small project or what have I gotten into
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:25 am
by MattSC
Looking good Paul! Was the top cored, or solid glass?
Re: A small project or what have I gotten into
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:45 pm
by prowlersfish
It was cored with plywood .
Re: A small project or what have I gotten into
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:14 am
by alexander38
MORE PICS>>>>>>
Re: A small project or what have I gotten into
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:37 am
by prowlersfish
There was not much intrest so I quit takeing photos of the project .
Re: A small project or what have I gotten into
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:05 am
by RWS
I'm always interested in seeing what's behind all that pretty fiberglass and how it will all go back together !
RWS