Trojan Boat Forum

prowlersfish wrote:captainmaniac The photo in my post is from your boat . Was the L bracket added ?

L bracket was original as far as I know (at least has been there since I bought the boat 16+ years ago). Don't think it is unique as here is a shot from the forum re F36 gas to diesel conversion that shows the same L bracket. http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee26 ... 0_0585.jpg

prowlersfish wrote:Are you sure your door is not just off track ? Just looking at the wear marks .

Quite positive. Where the track is not worn at all, it is flat on the top but with the original paint still intact. The wheels are also flat where they meet up with the track.

Due to the geometry, you could not put the door into the track without the wheel lining up with the raised portion of the track.

From the side, the portion of the track where the door rides looks like

I_M_I

with the sides of the M vertical and the top flat and below the tops of the I's.

captainmaniac wrote:

prowlersfish wrote:captainmaniac The photo in my post is from your boat . Was the L bracket added ?

L bracket was original as far as I know (at least has been there since I bought the boat 16+ years ago). Don't think it is unique as here is a shot from the forum re F36 gas to diesel conversion that shows the same L bracket. http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee262/1980TrojanF-
36/100_0585.jpg

I don't see the L in the photo but its not a clear shot that I saw . I will take a photo of mine this weekend ( if I can remember ) BTW Do you know what Happen to Danny ?

WayWeGo wrote:

prowlersfish wrote:Are you sure your door is not just off track ? Just looking at the wear marks .

Quite positive. Where the track is not worn at all, it is flat on the top but with the original paint still intact. The wheels are also flat where they meet up with the track.

Due to the geometry, you could not put the door into the track without the wheel lining up with the raised portion of the track.

From the side, the portion of the track where the door rides looks like

I_M_I

with the sides of the M vertical and the top flat and below the tops of the I's.

I know its a long shot but did you check with Bob at Beacon for a track ?

It seems like Trojan used different tracks on different boats, or possibly ours was replaced at some time. I think I can repair ours for less than a new track would be, if I could even get one. Besides, I like fixing things rather than replacing them!

WayWeGo wrote:

El L Sea wrote:The picture of the door frame (1st pic) is from the side on my workbench. I actually just slid the bottom part of the door off the glass and everything so I didn't have to haul the whole door home. The bottom picture shows the actual orientation.

The photo without the glass threw me off -- now I understand. How did you remove the existing track, or did you put the new track on top of it?

Thanks for the suggestion, I will think about all these when I can actually get back to the boat and see what fits the best.

I actually pulled the track and replaced it. I took some pictures today. Not too many since it was 85 degrees outside

El L Sea, thanks for the photos -- that is quite helpful. Not sure I could do exactly what you did since there are three parallel tracks that are part of the same extrusion on our boat, and there are fixed panels in two of them.

85 degrees sounds good to me. It is sunny here, but only 32 at the moment. Hope to be moving a bit further south in a couple of years...

prowlersfish wrote:I don't see the L in the photo but its not a clear shot that I saw . I will take a photo of mine this weekend ( if I can remember ) BTW Do you know what Happen to Danny ?

Here's a zoomed in version of the picture, and you can see the L bracket stopping an inch or so short of the door frame on the stbd side. I am guessing it's purpose was to stop as much cockpit gunk / dirt / leaves / bugs etc as possible from blowing or washing in to the wheel track.
Have no clue what happened to Danny. Never knew him. Just found that picture by doing a search for "F32 sedan salon doors" or something similar.

Capt M. I had looked a a photo with his gas engines still in and it kind of looked like mine . BUT it from the inside and very unclear . In the photo you posted it looks a whole lot different then mine and yours too .Yours looks like a cross of both. Notice all the glass was removed ?

What year is your Boat ?

Waywego's boat is a 75 mine is a 77/78 and Dannys is a 80 and they all are different . Makes it interesting for sure.

Are all OEM Trojan or have some of ours been changed ? I do know they went to a offset and wider door in the 80s along with a latch/lock change . Maybe a different door company ?

I have a '79. Picture with the diesels matches what I have (though my track is a little less messed up, or the picture wasn't as messed up with bad lighting). In the pic with diesels maybe the glass was removed in starboard fixed panel, but looks like it still exists in slider.

If I remember over the holidays I can take more focused pictures of what I have (heated indoor storage is the BEST -- aside from the friggin spiders that will never die!) if that might help.

Don't know if different hardware might have been used based on where the boat was built. Believe mine was probably built in Niagara-On-The-Lake, Ontario. If others were built in Lancaster, PA maybe they used some different parts.

I will try to post pic of mine also.

Not too many since it was 85 degrees outside

Thankfully, it was 16 F here this morning. It's awesome because I went shopping after work last night. I bought myself some frozen dinners to keep for late nights at work. When I got home, I just pulled them out of the grocery bag and left them in the car overnight. I know that you are jealous......

P-Dogg wrote:

Not too many since it was 85 degrees outside

Thankfully, it was 16 F here this morning. It's awesome because I went shopping after work last night. I bought myself some frozen dinners to keep for late nights at work. When I got home, I just pulled them out of the grocery bag and left them in the car overnight. I know that you are jealous......

I can relate, we had an ice issue with the boat last weekend, we ran out.

This what my track looks like . The door roller rides on the raised rail .

Here are a couple of photos of our door track. The wear at this end of the track is much less than at the other end.

As you can see, the top of the rail is basically flat. What you cannot see is that the rail for the screen door is identical to that of the sliding door, except it has no wear.

My play is to machine off some material from the top of the rail and replace it with fresh aluminum or stainless steel.