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We presently have a manual Jabsco head that I'm thinking about replacing with a Jabsco "Delux Flush Electric Toilet". I plan on using the raw water rinse pump option with this installation.

Has any one done this and if so, what are the pro's & con's. This is an expensive option and I would like to know if it's worth it.

Thanks,

Paul wrote:We presently have a manual Jabsco head that I'm thinking about replacing with a Jabsco "Delux Flush Electric Toilet". I plan on using the raw water rinse pump option with this installation.

Has any one done this and if so, what are the pro's & con's. This is an expensive option and I would like to know if it's worth it.

As the design uses little water you can use the onboard fresh water supply. Manin advantage of the design is that it allows for extended days of use before pumpouts... Is that what you need?
It might just be an expensive option if you don't have a need to reduce pumpout frequency.
Is your manual system causing any headaches?
Pro: easy to use for strangers
Con: price

I can't comment on the conversion, though I don't think it will be difficult. I will say that my boat is equipped with a Mansfield VacuFlush which is still working flawlessly after 30 yrs!

Mansfield is now known as Sealand Vacuflush part of the Dometic Corp.
They still support the old design with parts which I think is an important consideration for the future.... or maybe that they just got the design right the first time, if it works leave well enough alone.

I use fresh water tank for water supply which is not a problem as the design consumes very little water. All systems and holding tank are under the V berth.... 5 days with 4 aboard is no problem for waste storage.

Anytime you can use fresh water vs. seawater for the head, is better.

I removed the original head and tank unit and replaced with a Raritan Sea Era, household style electric head. My fresh water plumbing in the cabinet, made the install a breeze. The built-in macerator pumps the waste to my holding tank in the Vbirth.

It cost me about 475.00. Be sure to use new discharge hoses.

The Jabsco electric flush is a great choice. When you say the “Delux Flush Electric Toilet" are you referring to the Quiet flush mode? No matter, the raw water model is the standard model of Jabsco’s electric head. To install house water, you need to install an optional solenoid valve in the water system. It is fairly expensive. If you are boating in salt water or extremely dirty fresh water it might be worth considering. Since you already are using raw water in your manual head, I would stay with raw water.

To install the head you will need to run power to the head. It has a high current draw, 16 amps. Make sure you use heave wires to power it, #10 wires minimum. The length of the wire is the total wire length, both coming and returning. In the West Marine Catalog there is a chart showing wire size required.

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I replaced the head in my 81 f32 with the jabsco quiet flush and hooked it up with fresh water--I think using fresh water is much better--the only thing I did not like was that I purchased the flush switch with an optional toggle that fills or drains the bowl and found out that if you are not careful toggle will stay on and cause a problem---I would just purchase the standard switch

Thanks for the replies. Raw water flushing is a must for this boat since it only carries 20 gallons of fresh water. Since the raw water I'm refering to is Great Lakes water, corrosion shouldn't be an issue. The flush switch is no longer an option, it's one of 4 switches on the control panel. The "fill" button uses 1 qt of water, "quick flush" uses 1 qt, "flush" uses 2.5 qt because it cycles twice and "empty" does exactly that. My thinking here is that this toilet will not only look better than the manual one but it will be easier for guests to operate. However, if the guests use the "flush" button every time my 30 gal holding tank will fill up quickly.

Thanks,

Paul wrote:My thinking here is that this toilet will not only look better than the manual one but it will be easier for guests to operate. However, if the guests use the "flush" button every time my 30 gal holding tank will fill up quickly.

Along with ease of use it seems that your main concern is filling up tank quickly. This Jabsco system is still a push water flush system.
Might I suggest you look at the Vacuum flush style I suggested earlier.

With your holding tank size it would give you this approximation of uses:
because the flush is vacuum rather than pump push of the Jabsco there are steps you can take to make water consumption and waste storage really low.
Example..I don't use the fill step when head is being used for liquid disposal so your holding tank could take 100+ visits!
Solid use would require the fill step and so equate to 50+ visits.
These are best case situations but still give a good high water mark.

I hope this helps to give you a feel for how efficient this vacuum style of toilet can be.
It will require more below deck equipment space for the vacuum tank
2 1/4' by 1 3/4' x 1 3/4' approximately which a push sytem does not need.

Looks to me as though you should wait for the Toronto boat show in January to take a close look at both systems.
If you are coming I'll meet you there (I live almost walking distance away) for a fish burger at Henry's!

Hi Micheal,

I get up to Pickering on buisness occasionaly. One of those trips might just put me up there it time for the boat show.