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Leaking salon windows, 36' Tri-Cabin

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:19 am
by David Kane
I've seen in prior posts where the whole salon window assemblies have been removed from the boat to replace the window channels. My window channels are shot-leaked badly last summer. Used clear silicone caulk to get me through the season. While the boat is in inside storage this winter, I'd like to repair or replace the channels. Anybody have experience with replacing the channels without tearing the whole window frames out? These are double channels. I don't know if that kind of channel is still available. What I've seen on the website from Beacon Marine is only a single channel.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:14 am
by Stripermann2
David, give John a call at Marine Tech. While certain items for certain models are no longer available, he may have some good information/help for you. He has always come through for me on items I thought were long gone. Good luck.

717-684-4145

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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:21 pm
by aaronbocknek
david, you might want to email my dad directly on this one. i think he has some information you might need. m.m.bocknek@gmail.com
aaron

Re: window

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:30 am
by ready123
aaronbocknek wrote:david, you might want to email my dad directly on this one. i think he has some information you might need. m.m.bocknek@gmail.com
aaron
It would be best for him to do it here... that way all the rest of us have a chance to learn something too.

By the way where is he... a lot of welcoming was done to your introduction after you signed him up, did you forget to twist his arm..... you did give him a computer to log on with? :wink:

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:14 am
by jimbo36
I totally agree ready123, I have been looking for a response to this one as well. Thanks.

tri cabin leaking windows

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:07 am
by aaronbocknek
i have, on a daily basis, asked him to respond to the forum. he has had many things come up as of late, what they are i have no idea, but i keep telling him he should atleast log on and introduce himself. as for twisting his arm, well, no, after all he is in his late 70's and between my flight schedule and his being 68 miles away from me, i can only do so much. what i do know is he had the interior bottom part of the track rebuilt with mahogony that is taller than the exterior and had drilled more drain holes on the outside frame. after i run my errands this morning, ill get on him again to respond. not to worry guys, he will, when he is ready, respond.
aaron

now, if you need to look for replacement single or double window tracks, i believe that defender has something that can be used.
http://www.defender.com
part numbers 900635/900636/900637/900638/900639/900640/900641

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:52 am
by David Kane
Thanks, Aaron. The guys are right-we share our Trojan (and sometimes not so Trojan!) knowledge on the Forum so all can benefit. That is, after all, the reason we have such a great forum!!! I do look forward to your dad participating on the forum, but, hey, I figure it's like Cialis...when the time is right :lol: !!!

well, dad is finally online

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:45 pm
by aaronbocknek
i am on a conf. call w/ dad and he is responding as we speak.
enjoy his knowledge...... i know you all have been anxious to hear from him......
aaron

hi everyone..this is aoron's dad...

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:11 pm
by mmbocknek
aaron's dad responding to like-minded trojan owners....i had no idea there was such an interesting web site out there for those of us who have a love affair for our trojan boats.......i have not purposely ignored your welcoming calls....and i am pleased to share whatever insight i have had over the 36 years of sole ownership of bubala 3......[1972 f36 trojan tri-cabin]...i wonder if that is a record for single ownership.....
dave kane ....my boat was aft heavy because of the aft engines so i drilled extra holes in the outer metal frame for water runoff...also inside, built up the inner lower windoew frame with 2 inch mahogony caulked in place....a bad place is also where the 2 sliders meet as the felt gets old it gets worse and needs replacing....when the boat is washed do not aim for the windows !!!!!!!....best wishes for now...dave, follow aaron's advice to check with defender....talk with you later...
aaron's dad

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:17 pm
by David Kane
Thanks, Aaron's dad; I have to do something to seal up those channels prior to launch. So much rainwater came in the port side window it filled up & blew my light in the fwd head. So glad you can share with us on the forum, & hope you can find useful information for yourself also :D !

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:31 pm
by chumwithabottleofrum
getting back to leaky windows---I have an F26, and in have always wanted to blame leaky "windows"-but it wasn't the windows, it was the hand rail on top of the cabin. Finding and diagnosing leaks is always a project.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:52 pm
by MattSC
funny, I had the same on my F-26. Luckily there was no core damage

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:52 pm
by captainmaniac
Have friends that used to have an F25... they also had the forward window leak problem. The ended up getting a canvas guy make a panel to cover the forward window and its frame, and add snap fasteners at strategic locations. Stopped their leak 99% of the time.

As for the slider windows leaking - have had some 'fun' with the side salon windows in my F32 - don't know if they are similar to the TriCab sliders or not...

Found that keeping the window channels clean of grunge helped (if the water can't run away easily it will find another place to go...). Also found a couple of screws inside the framing (holding the channel down) were a bit loose so backed them off, doused with sealant, and snugged back up...

The last lesson learned -- the caulking AROUND the window frames... I stripped out the caulk where the bottom edge of the aluminum window frame meets the fibreglass it is bolted to, and then resealed it. This stopped the single worst leak I had. Turns out water was getting in 'somehow, somewhere', running under the frame between it and the fibreglass, finding any screw or bolt hole that wasn't 100% waterproof, and coming in... Then it would run and drip wherever gravity took it.

Window Leaks

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:41 pm
by Old Flame
Had a chronic problem with water leak in galley cabinet of my '85 Tri-cabin. Assumed it was water draining in from window track - the felt was in bad shape.
However, I found that water was actually coming in behind the window frame. There was a thin gap between the top of the metal frame and the fiberglass. Put a thin bead of clear caulk around top of outside window frame and no more water leaks.

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:01 pm
by rossjo
Aaron's Dad,

Hey captain, whats your name? 36 years is impressive.

Welcome aboard!