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Window seals

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:24 pm
by larglo
Hello all,

My front window have what looks like a flat rubber seal going all around it, except for some reason all the corners have missing materal, which causes the windows to leak,,,,big time!

I have an F25 HT, but other Trojan's may have the same type of seal. If any of you have had to fix up their front windows and had to replace this seal, could you please let me know what type of seal you used, to replace it, and where you got it from. I will check with the Trojan site, but thought I would check here also.

Many thanks.

Larry

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:31 pm
by Tuck
i clubbed my window seals. :lol:

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:54 pm
by larglo
Tuck.

"clubbed"

Thats a new one for me, could you explain the procedure for me.

Thanks, Larry

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:27 pm
by Peter
he was being clever... I think he meant baby harp seals :lol:

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:34 pm
by larglo
Well, I'm still at a loss, what in the world are/is "baby harp seals "? I hate to sound dumb, but I guess I am.

I'll do a Google search, but it would be great if someone would tell me about this.

Thanks,,,Larry

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:40 pm
by larglo
Clubbing Baby Harp Seals

Desc: Canadian harp seals, dressed to the nines, go out for a night on the town to the hottest new clubs.
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:43 pm
by Peter
Larglo; you don't sound dumb. It's kind of a tree hugger joke. Cute cuddly little baby seals are clubbed on the head, then skinned and their fur sold, to make such things as gloves and hats. Happens more in northern countries [Canada, Norway, Sweden]
There's not much of a market for this stuff anymore because it's politically incorrect, so I'm not sure how much it happens anymore. :roll:

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:32 pm
by Tuck
Image

sorry largo. peter's right. i was just tryin' to be funny, but apparently failed. lol

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:54 pm
by prowlersfish
I had the same leak on a F36 I put black silicone sealant in the corners to seal it

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:11 am
by larglo
Well, ya'll had me going there for a while, but the picture cracked me up! :-)
My Google search didn't help me much either.

I sure am glad they don't do that any more, too, it sounds gross and cruel.

I thought about a sealant, but was hoping someone knew of a new seal I could replace the old one with?

Thanks
Larry

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:24 pm
by wowzer52
My windows were also leaking in the corners as the seals were partially missing (maybe they got clubbed :( ) and like Prowlerfish I used a black silicon window sealer from an auto parts store. I shoved the tip of the tube in the hole and filled it up, quick and easy and it works great.

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:30 pm
by jimbo36
Unfortunately, they still do club baby seals in Canada. In fact we had a visit from Pamala Anderson (yes the Baywatch chick with the big, well you know's) up here to protest. It's cruel, gross, disgusting and wrong! Clubbing baby seals that is, not Pamala.

I used 3M 4200 black for the job. Cut away loose pieces with a razor blade, cleaned them out, taped them off, filed and smoothed with a putty knife dipped in a dishsoap /water solution. Still looks great 2 years later. Replacing the actual seal, even if you could find new ones, would be a major job. It was my original plan until I looked at what was involved on my F36. This is the way to go.

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:06 pm
by larglo
jimbo36, all

Sounds like good advise, so I did a copy, paste of your post into my notebook.

Thank you.

Larry

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:02 am
by randyp
Larry

If you have the time and patience you can and should replace the plexiglas and seals on your front windows. There's a post I used about 3-4 years ago that showed how to do it and it was worth the effort. Great winter project. What happens (I think) is that the plexiglas expands in the heat of the day and when it was originally installed I don't think they allows room for expansion around the frame. So, over time it starts to crack on the edges. This, and the seals drying out (not the ones that you club) starts the leakage.

Now you can take a shortcut and not remove the frames from the cabin, but trim off the rubber gasket to get at the plexiglas underneath. It may be held in place with metal or plastic clips. You can remove these. Have 2 replacement pieces of plexiglas or Lexan (polycarbonate) cut but leave 1/8" space around the entire perimeter to leave room for expansion. Clean out the sealant that was between the window and the frame really well and replace with 3M 4200 or silicone (I prefer black silicone as it will flex with the plastic expansion). Set the new windows in place and weigh them down overnight. I replaced the original plastic clips with stainless steel washers but you really don't need that.

The final trim to replace the old nasty rubber gasket can be made using the same black silicone. Use cut the caulker tip to be really large and tape the edges round the frame and window with painters tape (where you don't want the silicone to touch). "Tool" the silicone with an ice-cube as this will yield a really smooth shiny surface. Practice this technique on some waste stock so you get a feel for it. Most professional caulkers lick their finger tips and "spit-tool" the caulk. The ice-cube method is a lot easier and not as messy or nasty.

If you want I can send you the instructions I used from the old post.

My email: rfpssp@aol.com

Randy

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:42 am
by larglo
Randy,

I thought I had some instructions for working on the front windows, but I can't find them. They may have been working on the side windows?

It would be most kind of you to send the instructions.

Thank you very much.

Larry

larsummers@yahoo.com