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mid cabin flooring question

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:10 am
by BobCT
Has anyone replacing the carpeting with something else? I ripped up the carpeting on my 10m and plan on replacing with a teak/holley laminate.

I'm not sure what to do in the areas that were carpeted that can't be easily covered:

* hull sides in the v berth. (I actually left that carpeting in place for now)

* hull side right in front of the galley sink

* mid cabin sides. The floor is easy enough but there are four carpeted sides
as well.


Any ideas appreciated!


Bob

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:24 am
by MTP
what is your source for the teak holy lami? and how much a sqft is it?

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:56 am
by RWS
The express cruiser layout onmy International is different than yours.

We have large storage lockers centerline under the floor.

We replaced th carpet with a commercial grade that included a custom "edge" sewn into it.

Teak/Holly is nice but what about the amount of noise that is absorbed by the carpet?

Keep us posted as I'd love to see how you deal with the steps. Those would look great on ours with the teak/holly look!

RWS

the stuff I'm looking at is called "Lonseal"....

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:16 am
by BobCT
I got some samples and it looks really good. Apparently this is a "photo" reproduction that they use to create it.

I haven't figured out the per foot price, but it's roughly $800 for the inside of my mid cabin. (6' X 10'). I think Defender actually stocks it and I haven't really shopped around. It's about a foot too narrow so I have to think about that.... small seam in front of sink area.

Ironically, I think the steps will be the easiest. My plan was to remove them and rebuild using solid teak at home (or at least the steps as a template). I haven't actually removed the stair carpeting yet to investigate further.

The transition areas are what have me a little stumped though.

RWS - I guess the sound level when running will be a little higher, good point. On some levels, I like the idea of just replacing the carpeting but covering up the three bilge access panels bugs me. In the short time I've owned the boat, I must have pulled back the carpeting ten times. I'm getting everything sorted out so I suppose I won't need as frequent access.


Bob

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:40 am
by RWS
Bob,

I have the reproduction "teak & Holly" in my cockpit, covering the center engine room hatch & the lazarette hatch.

It's 4 years old and has held up well against the weather.

The problem with my stairs, yes, not steps, is that they are the curved, Doris Day style.

I'm afraid they will be a nightmare to recover with anything other than carpet.

I'd love to hear some suggestions.

RWS

Re: mid cabin flooring question

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:10 am
by ready123
BobCT wrote:Has anyone replacing the carpeting with something else? I ripped up the carpeting on my 10m and plan on replacing with a teak/holley laminate.
I'm not sure what to do in the areas that were carpeted that can't be easily covered:
* hull sides in the v berth. (I actually left that carpeting in place for now)
* hull side right in front of the galley sink
* mid cabin sides. The floor is easy enough but there are four carpeted sides as well.
Any ideas appreciated!Bob
Not familiar with your boat inside details but here is what we did with our F32 wall panels.
The removable wood panels we covered with 1/8" foam and then wrapped curtain material fabric over that and stapled to back of panels. On solid wood bulkhead at front of V berth we used fabric again and just used spray glue from a Michael's (craft's and hobby store) to hold that to bulkhead.
That glue should work on the hull sides.... only thing to think about is if the glass is rough it might show through the material.
To me the process of using foam glued to hull and then material glued to the foam should work also if you want a soft surface which is why we used the foam in our V berth.

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:37 pm
by wowzer52
I am in the process of re-upholstering my boat, again, meaning, when my wife gets tired of it looking one way she likes to change it and it's only been two years since the last time. (if momma aint happy, aint no-one happy) That is why I try to install all the new stuff in a way that is easy to remove. Teak trim boards with brass screws (like in the V-birth) on the edges of the panels work great for holding the panels or carpet in place and look good too with easy removal for future changes. This time I am installing carpet on the walls around the V-birth and beside the dinette over the fabric (for noise reduction) to match the new carpet on the floor of the galley where there is already teak and holly. The teak and holly looks great but gets too cold for her feet in the winter so I cut the carpet in and don't attach it to the floor. That way I can change it when I want to and it still keeps it warmer in the cabin, not to mention the noise reduction. I did however, attach the salon carpet. With the type of carpet I used, I was able to cut the carpet around the hatches without trim and the hatch carpet blends (short shag, no strings to unravel) when I close them making the hatches undefined. As far as noise is concerned, My boat was used as a charter fishing boat out of Seattle before I got it. The teak and holly floors in the salon were too far gone for me to restore and the engine noise was so bad I was not going to keep the boat. At 3000 rpm we had to yell to be heard but after changing the insulation on the center hatches and carpeting the salon over the old teak and holly we are able to carry a conversation in a normal voice.

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:29 pm
by koviak
Bob, my 10 meter has the teak and holly laminate and the stairs have been done. Previous owner hired a older gentleman who was doing other boats at the yard. Looks good,areas at forward bunk sides where recarpeted. The area at the galley was covered with teak and holly. Noise is not really a issue as the engines are behind the mid cabin bulkhead. Loudest noise I hear is a/c compressor running.