Trojan Boat Forum

I have an 87 F32. The lower helm has a hydraulic fluid leak. Are new or used pumps available or are these obsolete?

i have 78 f32 that has leaking lower helm station i have the syten system on mine and this is obsolete and apparently no seals/parts are available and i have not found any info anywhere where someone has found something that would work. i dont know what you have but the link below may be of some help to you

http://www.teleflex.ru/upload/files/cat ... /Parts.pdf

if you have the same as mine and find info please pass along thanks

You still can get seal kits , you just have to look around the net .

everything you need is still avaliable. if the helm is leaking they sell seal kits. search southern charm through http://boaterscatalog.com/ all exploded diagrams and "how to" is on the site.
I recently sent my helm into them (southern charm) and had them do the work.

My helm seal was leaking.

Chose to be proactive and replaced the helm & ram with 2 line hydraulic Teleflex system.

This eliminates the entire issue of keeping a bicycle pump onboard.

One less item to do maintenance on

RWS

I just rebuilt my H50 last week, kit is available at Boatfix for about $35 delivered.

Scott Gardner did a write-up on BoaterEd if you need it.

If you have H50's I'll chime in w/more detail.

Bob

since i didnt start this thread i would still like to ask can any of you find a place that sells kits for the syten system? i had asked this along time ago with no responses am i correct that the syten system parts are unavailable. i have found none

I just rebuilt two of them. Very simple repair just make sure you index the rear assembly correctly. I believe you have a Hynautic pump. Parts available at
http://www.go2marine.com/category.do?no=11674

RWS if you have old pump and ram I could use them.

David,

I gave all of my "parts" to Roger DeVore at 1st Mate Marine over in Boca Raton.

He's a marine mechanic and specializes in Trojans.

Here's his e-mail

1stmatemarine@bellsouth.net

devorerl@bellsouth.net

RWS

RWS---

I have the old three line Hynautic hydraulic steering with the bicycle pump you spoke of (that you replaced) on a recent post. I had my helm resealed and got a new relief valve and still seem to lose air pressure. The fluid level never seems to go down (which is great) so i assume the leak is on the air resevoir bicycle pump valve or something. However, I still gotta fill it up with air everytime I'm going out. Can't find any leaking with a bubble leak finder solution.

Did you suffer from the same problems, leading you to change the steering system?

Thanks!

I've never heard of a syten steering system. Who made it. Couldn't find anything on google either. Mayeb look for the manufacturer of the individual parts?

If it's the helm driven hydraulic pump, rebuild isn't a bad job at all.

I did mine 18 months ago. Bought the parts through my marina. They got them from Paxton. Yours shold be the same as mine. I've got the part numbers down at the boat, but will bring them home tomorrow for you.

Dave,

We had a decent helm leak combined with the periodic ritual of the bicycle pump.

I couldn't find the rebuild kits at the time and chose to replace with the Hynautic 3 line air over hydraulic system with the 2 line airless system.

Scott and several others have since rebuilt thiers with great results and shared the experience with us.

RWS

gardnersf i would like to rebuild my helm pump but according to info i have read seals arent available here is some syten info i really dont want to invest the money and tim installing a brand new system if i can find parts to fix the leak.

I found a little more information. Here is a link to an article where someone successfuly repaired their Syten pump. Reading the article, it looks like the helm pumps were not made to be readily serviceable. loosk a little harder to disassemble than the Hynautic.

From the little research I did, it looks like the system used non-standard fittings which may make it difficult

http://home.comcast.net/~e29290/syten%2 ... repair.pdf


It may be better to replace the helm pump. If the rest of the system is fine than it may not be that expensive (at least for a boat repair)


Here is a link for 5/16 fittings. May be useful

http://www.go2marine.com/product.do?no=81276F

Loosk like the pumps are about $350-$380 and the back mount kit about $35