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tanks with 4 yr old gas

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 10:00 am
by rooferdave
getting close to starting my 36 trifly but I am worried about the fuel / crap that may be in them, any ideas what to do? Pump them, and if so who does this? Camera inpection... new fuel and pray... invest in fuel filter stocks and then start buying lots of filters, not sure how much is in or if the gauges are accurate
Thanks in advance guys

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:36 pm
by Danny Bailey
I certainly would not try to run it through the engines if it is four years old. When I replaced the tanks in m F-36, I bought 1/2" nylon tubing from the hardware store and siphoned the remaining gas out to lighten the tanks for lifting. Mine was not four years old, so I took it home and burned it in my vehicles. That only works if your boat is on stands. If in the water, you could possible buy a 12 volt fuel pump and pump it into containers. Disposal may be a problem.

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 4:15 pm
by k9th
I personally would drain the tanks and burn the fuel elsewhere or dispose of it.

I guess you could consider filtering it with very fine mesh filters and using additives to try to salvage it for the boat if it is a large quantity.

Depending on the condition of the drained fuel, I might want to clean the tanks thoroughly.

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 7:35 am
by jimbo36
rooferdave, The fuel in the GTA is E-10. The old fuel in the tanks now probably is not. Aside from the condition of the old fuel, if you add E-10 to it "Phase seperation" will occure. :( Now you will need to pump ALL the fuel out, including the new corn gas. A 12 volt electric fuel pump is the way to go. Don't even think about trying to burn the old s..t, if you have any regard for your engines. jimbo36. :wink:

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:28 am
by k9th
If you need a good 12VDC pump rated for fuel transfer, I am chief engineer at Tuthill Transfer Systems and we make Fill-Rite brand pumps and can probably get you one for free if you want. It would be one that was returned and then refurbished but still basically new.

Let me know.

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 11:25 am
by rooferdave
k9th wrote:If you need a good 12VDC pump rated for fuel transfer, I am chief engineer at Tuthill Transfer Systems and we make Fill-Rite brand pumps and can probably get you one for free if you want. It would be one that was returned and then refurbished but still basically new.

Let me know.
WOW! that would be amazing! Let me know what I have to do to make this happen,

Dave

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 11:31 am
by rooferdave
jimbo36 wrote:rooferdave, The fuel in the GTA is E-10. The old fuel in the tanks now probably is not. Aside from the condition of the old fuel, if you add E-10 to it "Phase seperation" will occure. :( Now you will need to pump ALL the fuel out, including the new corn gas. A 12 volt electric fuel pump is the way to go. Don't even think about trying to burn the old s..t, if you have any regard for your engines. jimbo36. :wink:
thanks, burning the gas was never an option for me, the engines are new to the boat and have not even been fired yet. As K9th suggested I should maybe clean the tanks, the question is how?

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 11:56 am
by k9th
rooferdave wrote:
k9th wrote:If you need a good 12VDC pump rated for fuel transfer, I am chief engineer at Tuthill Transfer Systems and we make Fill-Rite brand pumps and can probably get you one for free if you want. It would be one that was returned and then refurbished but still basically new.

Let me know.
WOW! that would be amazing! Let me know what I have to do to make this happen,

Dave
Dave -

I am on vacation and will return June 7th. What size pump do you need? We have everything from hand pumps to 20GPM pumps that run on 12VDC. The small ones are the economy line and are very small and will pump about 8GPM. They are for limited duty, very lightweight, and will probably do the job. The larger volume pumps are much heavier since they are made of cast iron.

We also have small pumps that are 110VAC. All pumps have a 30 minute duty cycle which means you can run them for 30 minutes and then it has to cool down for 30 minutes.

Let me know and I will get one shipped to you. You can send me a private message with your address if you don't want to publish it here, otherwise, just post it here.

Tim

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 3:11 pm
by mpulsev10
I just had all the old stuff sucked out of my boat. There is a company in town called gentry oil. They sell the marine grade non-ethanol fuel. I had to remove all 4 sending units, then they came and sucked the old stuff out and filled it up. Hopefully going in the water in the next few weeks.

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 9:49 pm
by rooferdave
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