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Plate above rudder
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:51 pm
by kickervr15s@aol.com
on my 76 f25 just above the rudder theres a plate that goes between the rudder and housing does anyone know if its oe or aftermarket between the plate and housing theres a 3/8s gap i have pics of the plate if someone will post and there is no part number on the plate [/img]
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:33 am
by Stripermann2
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:42 pm
by prowlersfish
The plate very well maybe a Trojan only as I don't think its a common part . the stuffing/packing box (housing) looks like a std Buck Algonquin part the packing box looks like the warped part .
I would not worry how the 2 parts fit together as part of the hull goes between them . How it fits to the hull is more important . a 3/8 gap in places would be to much. If it tightens down OK and is slightly uneven thats ok , a good sealant should do the job 5200 or 4200 will work .( my choice is 5200
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:27 pm
by kickervr15s@aol.com
thats the way it came off the boat just like that the plate was attached to the stuffing box then bolted tothe boat
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:46 pm
by prowlersfish
That seems wrong is there another bronze plate in the boat ?
If not the large plate goes under the boat and the packing box goes inside .
Do you have a photo of the hull by the rudder ?
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:16 pm
by kickervr15s@aol.com
i will get pic
Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:21 am
by jon_e_quest
You're missing part of the rudder port casting... The plate does go directly up against the hull, but the rudder port is missing the three inch long part of it's casting that fits down thru the hull and thru the hole in the plate. You need a new rudder port. Hamilton Marine is one source and you can order online.
If I recall John at Marine Tech correctly, the plate was Trojan's attempt to hydrodynamically extend the length of the hull to improve handling.
Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:45 pm
by prowlersfish
jon_e_quest I believe your right about the port missing part of it ( I should have caught it ) and I believe your correct on the purpose . and we both agree plate under the hull port above inside the hull
Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:48 pm
by jon_e_quest
prowlersfish wrote:jon_e_quest I believe your right about the port missing part of it ( I should have caught it ) and I believe your correct on the purpose . and we both agree plate under the hull port above inside the hull
That's right... rudder port mounts inside the hull. Plate goes on the outside. And kicker should NOT be using the rudder port in these pics for anything but a paper weight!
Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:47 pm
by kickervr15s@aol.com
yes i know the rudder port in pic was an extra that came with the boat i know someone cut it just using it in the photo i know its not any good heres the two pics from under the boat

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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:27 am
by jon_e_quest
Kicker, the plate you have is an original equipment item used on all Model 253 F-25's and was designed by Trojan to improve handling. It's shaped to fit up over the protruding end of the rudder port directly against the hull. As prowler suggests, use adhesive sealant when mounting (I prefer 3M's 4200 over 5200 because it's easier to remove the part later should it ever become nessessary).
Run a bead of sufficient size along the plate's hull footprint and around the rudder port and mounting holes. Let completely cure before relaunching.
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:30 am
by prowlersfish
Before you reinstall is you need to clean that area and inspect it . I see what could be cracked fiberglass
heres more pics
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:51 pm
by kickervr15s@aol.com
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:04 pm
by prowlersfish
That just is not right , on the out sude chance that port went on the outside there would be a plate on the inside
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:06 pm
by kickervr15s@aol.com
thers not a plate on inside but i am taking all of it out and putting stuffing box to inside and plate to outside