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Local Trojan 32 for sale story

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:30 pm
by 297Elegante
Recently I had stopped into the local parts store down the street from my boat club, to grab a few items. In waiting for the parts gentleman I overheard a customer asking about a few boats on their "For Sale" wall. The customer asked about half the boats, and I paid attention, seeing as though I had nothing else to occupy my time. I heard him ask about a Trojan F32. The salesman quickly stopped him and said no. He mentioned this boat had a survey done recently and they found stringer rot throughout. The customer asked about how severe the issue was, and the salesman described the boat as trashed, possibly the worst they have heard/seen.

Their conversation ended, I got my parts and on the way out stopped by the bulletin board. Well low and behold, I check into the F32 and the description definately does not indicate an issue with any structural damage. My guess was they had a recent survey done and had not updated the board.

In my searchings online I stumbled by the boat again, and sure enough, there is no mention of issues on the internet ad either, and the price is a premium for this boat, in my book. I wonder if I heard them wrong, but there were no other Trojans, and the salesmans description made this sound like a derilect boat that he wouldn't step foot on. She is a very pretty boat otherwise, and I sure hope I did misunderstand their conversation.

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/ ... yachtsales&

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:41 pm
by k9th
Interesting story and should hasten everyone to let the buyer beware, and if you have a boat for sale - get a thorough and legitimate survey done to put all fears to rest.

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:10 pm
by jav
could be true OR, perhaps the counter guy didn't want interest in the boat for his own reasons???

If I were interested in a boat that someone was bad mouthing, I'd certianly ask very pointed questions about the stated deficiencies and gauge the owners responses. If they seemed legit, I'd even look to confirm these things myself prior to paying for a survey BUT what I wouldn't do- is walk away from a boat on the basis of a strangers free advice. It's likely only worth what was paid for it.

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:12 pm
by MattSC
Interesting story, though unless I'm hearing it from the surveyor I'd take it with a grain of salt. It's amazing how much a story can change from one person to another. Though I would always get a survey from an accredited surveyor

When I had my repower done in 2002, I had both of my engine bearing stringers replaced by the yard that did the repower. Mine weren't too bad, though they did bring it to my attention as something I might want to address. They specialized in major refits from small jobs such as mine all the way up to megayachts and was told it wasn't too difficult a job for them, as the engine/trans were already out. So I had two engine bearing stringers built, high density foam with a 1/2" SS plate embedded, drilled/tapped and now have machine screw threads instead of lag bolts holding my engine mounts. They did an excellent job on them.

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:31 pm
by prowlersfish
some F32s had stringer issues the parts guy may have assumed this one did . or maybe it did , would you expect the seller to post it ? He may disclose it to a possible buyer ( or not) .

Bottom line you don't know untill you look at it .

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:04 am
by RWS
I heard from a friend who knows the parts guys cousin that the boat owner is a hot divorcee who just broke up with the parts guy because he didn't know how to please her.

At least that's what I heard...


RWS

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:56 pm
by Tuck
RWS wrote:I heard from a friend who knows the parts guys cousin that the boat owner is a hot divorcee who just broke up with the parts guy because he didn't know how to please her.

At least that's what I heard...


RWS
or you serious, or pulling a "tuck"?

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:23 pm
by foofer b
survey says!!!

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:26 pm
by prowlersfish
survey says , only a Tuck can't see when a Tuck is pulled

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:31 pm
by wowzer52
Never believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. :wink:

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:09 am
by 297Elegante
I will admit, the parts guy seemed honest, and the gentleman looking for a boat didn't seem to have any solid idea of what he wanted. He eneded up looking at a 37' Sea Ray Sedan bridge, but his wife did not like it. He probably asked questions about half the boats on the board.

I would assume anyone looking to toss $30K down on a boat would invest in a solid survey.

Is there a "law" on the books though, that if a dealer/broker knows about a deficiency, he has to disclose it?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:11 am
by Tuck
prowlersfish wrote:survey says , only a Tuck can't see when a Tuck is pulled
not fair. funny...but not fair. :P

i learned LONG ago that even the most outlandish crap can be true. especially when it comes to motivations stemming from spiteful relationships and the ending thereof.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:46 pm
by rossjo
RWS wrote:I heard from a friend who knows the parts guys cousin that the boat owner is a hot divorcee who just broke up with the parts guy because he didn't know how to please her.

At least that's what I heard...

RWS
Guess his stringers were rotten too .... ;-)