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F 36 Trojan 1976 Twin Chrysler 400 Marine Gas Engines

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:52 pm
by gordo50
Hello

Looking at F36 Trojan with twin Chrysler 400, any thoughs on the quality of the engines, and boat generaly, has a soft spot near front not serious, clean boat. Asking 30 will take 25. What should we look at, engine have been rebuilt with only 100 or so hours. Port engine seems to have a problem going over 3000 rpm owner thinks it distributor and timing.

All input apprecited

Thanks

Gordo

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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:01 pm
by Danny Bailey
Review the past posts here and you will find most issues that have been encountered on F-36's. Not familiar with 400 Chryslers. You might want to get a boat and engine survey!!

Re: F 36 Trojan 1976 Twin Chrysler 400 Marine Gas Engines

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:35 pm
by ready123
gordo50 wrote:Hello
Looking at F36 Trojan with twin Chrysler 400, any thoughs on the quality of the engines, and boat generaly, has a soft spot near front not serious, clean boat.
When you say not serious is this based on moisture readings and soundings done by a knowledgeable person?? The front is the high point so water can have traveled quite far back.
Problem with the Trojan deck design (double cored design) is that water has the whole area to move around without any break in the balsa core layup.
My decks had some wet spots which on opening up required a 90% replacement.
Make sure you get a good surveyor to look at it before you close the deal... the $700/800 will be more than worth it!
I think that boat has been on the market for some time.

Re: F 36 Trojan 1976 Twin Chrysler 400 Marine Gas Engines

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:05 pm
by gordo50
ready123 wrote:
gordo50 wrote:Hello
Looking at F36 Trojan with twin Chrysler 400, any thoughs on the quality of the engines, and boat generaly, has a soft spot near front not serious, clean boat.
When you say not serious is this based on moisture readings and soundings done by a knowledgeable person?? The front is the high point so water can have traveled quite far back.
Problem with the Trojan deck design (double cored design) is that water has the whole area to move around without any break in the balsa core layup.
My decks had some wet spots which on opening up required a 90% replacement.
Make sure you get a good surveyor to look at it before you close the deal... the $700/800 will be more than worth it!
I think that boat has been on the market for some time.
Thanks

Good Info, whats the price tag on replacement, some thing tells me it huge, seems to just a small 18 inch section from feel only, yes I think its been on the market for a while, will get a survey for sure if he can solve the port engine problem

Thanks

Gord

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:47 pm
by k9th
A survey is your best line of defense against unknown problems. A thorough survey by a reputable surveyor should uncover all areas that are in need of repair so that you can get estimates before you close the deal and use that information to bargain on the price. The owner may not even be aware of some of the issues you uncover and will be more likely to adjust the price if presented by a reputable surveyor.

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:57 pm
by ready123
Huge is only relative.... if the boat was for pennies then adding $19K for full decks does not seem huge... at the price you are looking at it is a double!
It is a job that can be done yourself if you are handy and have somewhere to store it inside to work on.
I looked at my costs to rent a shop etc: and quickly decided that the reduced hassle of having a pro do it was worth the extra cost.

When you say the front... is this around the anchor rode hole or other things screwed to the deck?
Other areas to look at are around running lights, hatch opening, cleats and the railing stanchions. Look below the front windshield frame also... a rubber mallet tells a lot.... dull thump or hollow sound not so good, clapping vibrating sound suggests delamination and a bright ping sound means good deck.... those are my layman's terms for what I heard when watching a pro do the checks.
As part of your survey you might want to bring a guy from a marine fibreglass shop to do the sounding..... a case of beer usually works and he will have the info to give a job quote also.

distributor function

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:23 pm
by Empire
Yes, a survey is a must for a boat this size. You might want to add a few drops of light oil into the distributor oil caps, often overlooked during routine maintenance. I just did, and my 1975 Chryler 340s are purring.