Opinions needed... anybody have one ?

This forum is for comments and the exchange of information relating to Trojan Boats and boating. Please do not post used parts or boats For Sale in this area. For general, non-boating topics please use our "General Discussions" section.

Note: Negative or inflammatory postings will not be tolerated.

Moderators: BeaconMarineBob, Moderator, BeaconMarineDon

rbcool
Active User
Posts: 938
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:31 pm
Location: Kent Island, MD

Opinions needed... anybody have one ?

Post by rbcool »

I'm going crazy not having radar. I'm used to fishing until 12/31 and going out in even the thickest fog. I also don't mind cruising in the dark. But neither of these I am willing to do without radar.
My dilemma is : Should I totally change the look of the boat and put up a radar arch? Not to mention putting a lot of holes in the sides of the bridge deck. Any alternatives? Thoughts?? Would you do it?
When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.
Ronald Reagan
1987 F36 Tri-Cabin
Twin 270 Crusaders
"Special K"
Upper Bay, Chesapeake Bay

http://www.photobucket.com/albums/ff424/rbcool/
User avatar
k9th
Ultimate User
Posts: 1615
Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:31 pm
Location: Michigan City, IN

Post by k9th »

I have installed a small stainless steel mast, approximately 36" long, that runs from the area next to the console straight through the canvas top and the radar antenna is mounted right there. My avatar does not show it since it was taken before I installed it. I custom designed the mast and mounting platform and had them made at a cost of $150.00

My canvas was destroyed last year and when the new one was made, it was made with a hole to accommodate the size of the mast and the canvas maker provided a velcro cover if I ever take it down.

On the bottom I use a swivel mount with square bolted base plate from a rod holder so that I get the exact angle I want on the antenna. My cable comes right through the mast and the mast sits within six inches of the radar display.

Pretty neat and no holes in the fiberglass. This is not my idea as I saw a Chris Craft in our marina that did this and I copied him.

Just an alternative that works for me.
Tim

"SeaDog"
1979 36' Tri-Cabin
Peter
Moderate User
Posts: 642
Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:49 am
Location: Used to have F36 on Lake Erie...

Post by Peter »

k9...would really like a set of pic's if possible...I have radar collecting dust in my basement and have been watching ebay for almost 2 years for a cheap used arch close to me but no luck.150$ sounds way better than $1500...may break down and mount on the front of the fly bridge....Thanks
Please insert acceptable political or boating statement here...or not... I really don't give a crap....
rossjo
Ultimate User
Posts: 2799
Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:48 pm
Location: Charleston, SC
Contact:

Post by rossjo »

As I recall, you're supposed to mount the radar so that the plane of the radar is 3' above your head for safety, as wll as a clear 360 circle for clear reception.
Last edited by rossjo on Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Captain Ross, 2009 Trojan Boater of the Year
"Viva Mahia" F32 Cummins 6BTA diesels,
"Mack Attack" Chaparral 244 Fish, SeaPro 180, McKee 14, Montauk-17
Image
Peter
Moderate User
Posts: 642
Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:49 am
Location: Used to have F36 on Lake Erie...

Post by Peter »

agreed.would like to avoid radiating the family jewels if possible :shock:
Please insert acceptable political or boating statement here...or not... I really don't give a crap....
rossjo
Ultimate User
Posts: 2799
Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:48 pm
Location: Charleston, SC
Contact:

Post by rossjo »

At this point in life, I'm more worried about protecting my few functioning brains cells than my family jewels. :shock:

Funny how your point of view changes as you get older. :roll:
Captain Ross, 2009 Trojan Boater of the Year
"Viva Mahia" F32 Cummins 6BTA diesels,
"Mack Attack" Chaparral 244 Fish, SeaPro 180, McKee 14, Montauk-17
Image
rbcool
Active User
Posts: 938
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:31 pm
Location: Kent Island, MD

Post by rbcool »

K9, would also like to see pics if possible. Does it laek????

I was a real dummy when I bought the 740s in July... They were offering a package deal to include the radar for anoter $700.00, But since there was no arch I didn't do it.

Thyanks for the input guys.... Ron
When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.
Ronald Reagan
1987 F36 Tri-Cabin
Twin 270 Crusaders
"Special K"
Upper Bay, Chesapeake Bay

http://www.photobucket.com/albums/ff424/rbcool/
MattSC
Moderate User
Posts: 494
Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:07 pm

Post by MattSC »

I had an arch custom made back in 02 by Marine Retrofit, he's located near the CT River, Old Saybrook area. He was great to work with, took the boats lines into consideration when he designed it. He did an excellent job and would definitely recommend him. The radar unit was definitely one of the best upgrades I did.
User avatar
k9th
Ultimate User
Posts: 1615
Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:31 pm
Location: Michigan City, IN

Post by k9th »

rbcool wrote:K9, would also like to see pics if possible. Does it laek????

I was a real dummy when I bought the 740s in July... They were offering a package deal to include the radar for anoter $700.00, But since there was no arch I didn't do it.

Thyanks for the input guys.... Ron
No it doesn't leak at all. I will try to get some pics but will have to hurry as they are pulling it this week and winterizing and shrink wrapping it. If not, I can get it in the spring. They will be taking it off for shrink wrap.
Tim

"SeaDog"
1979 36' Tri-Cabin
User avatar
prowlersfish
2025 Gold Support
2025 Gold Support
Posts: 12725
Joined: Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:56 pm
Location: Lower Chesapeake Bay ,Va

Post by prowlersfish »

Seen a few pole mounts on the tri cabins . they work ok with 2.2kw or less domes . a 4kw would need a pretty study rig . for a open array you would need a arch or you could put a hard top on the boat.

What size/type were you planing on installing ? I just when from a dome to a open array this weekend . (same display just up graded it to open) .
Boating is good for the soul
77/78 TROJAN F36 Conv.
6BTA Cummins diesels
Life is to short for a ugly boat :D
rbcool
Active User
Posts: 938
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:31 pm
Location: Kent Island, MD

Post by rbcool »

The 4k, but I'm used to having open. I hope there isn't much difference.
When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.
Ronald Reagan
1987 F36 Tri-Cabin
Twin 270 Crusaders
"Special K"
Upper Bay, Chesapeake Bay

http://www.photobucket.com/albums/ff424/rbcool/
User avatar
prowlersfish
2025 Gold Support
2025 Gold Support
Posts: 12725
Joined: Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:56 pm
Location: Lower Chesapeake Bay ,Va

Post by prowlersfish »

I found a big improvement going to the open Both 4KW . The dome was ok but was never 100% happy with it . However I did have a 2.2 furuno dome (1712) and it was as good as or better then anyone else's 4kw. Next radar I will be going back to Furuno . A friend with a Ray E120 super HD said the same thing .


The garmins seem to be ok THe folks I know that have them are happy with them ( all switched from raymarine)
Boating is good for the soul
77/78 TROJAN F36 Conv.
6BTA Cummins diesels
Life is to short for a ugly boat :D
rbcool
Active User
Posts: 938
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:31 pm
Location: Kent Island, MD

Post by rbcool »

I know what you mean. My last open was furono 36 mile w/ a seperate display and I loved it. But I now have a Garmin. Have always had Garmin and it's what i recommend and install on customers boats.
When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.
Ronald Reagan
1987 F36 Tri-Cabin
Twin 270 Crusaders
"Special K"
Upper Bay, Chesapeake Bay

http://www.photobucket.com/albums/ff424/rbcool/
User avatar
aaronbocknek
Ultimate User
Posts: 2080
Joined: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:19 am
Location: baltimore, md (alexandria, va and middle river,md) PARKSIDE MARINA

Post by aaronbocknek »

here is a link to a 1981 tri cabin in alabama with a radar arch added. it also has diesels! (and yes, for us tri cabin purists, the 'layout' diagram is reversed. i tried to tell them, but broker will not listen to me :x ) and she has dropped in price 10K over the last few weeks. if i had the shekels for a custom aluminum arch, i'd follow the '45' at the base of the helm side windows, arching back. i wish i had CAD to show you what i mean.
anyway, it gives you an idea of the look with the addition.
aaron

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1981- ... n-97016949
1982 F-36 TRI CABIN ENTERPRISE
PARKSIDE MARINA IN MIDDLE RIVER, MD
aaronbocknek@gmail.com
rbcool
Active User
Posts: 938
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:31 pm
Location: Kent Island, MD

Post by rbcool »

WOW !!! Thanks Aaron. You've got my head whizzing this am (or is it the double latte's) That doesn't look too bad at all!
You should snatch that boat up right now, bet you could get an even better price since the guy is looking at having to haul soon.
Ron
When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.
Ronald Reagan
1987 F36 Tri-Cabin
Twin 270 Crusaders
"Special K"
Upper Bay, Chesapeake Bay

http://www.photobucket.com/albums/ff424/rbcool/
Post Reply