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Teak or Mahogany?
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:59 pm
by JGedridge
Hey all,
I am about 90% sure that the exterior wood on my tri-cabin is teak. Although the spray rails on the side by the waterline are mahogany because one rotted and I replaced it with teak.
I took the swimplatform off of the boat to redo it and it looks like the swimplatform is teak, bu the ladder going from the swimplatform to the back of the boat looks to be mahogany....Any help? I have no clue.
Joe

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:35 pm
by captainmaniac
In '79 the ladder steps were teak, but don't know for sure if they continued that through to your year. Having said that, it might not matter too much depending on what you are using to redo it... Cetol is a good 'equalizer'. I have used it on Teak, Mahogany (veneer on good one side plywood), and Oak and they all come out looking pretty much the same after about 4 coats.
Re: Teak or Mahogany?
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:59 pm
by rbcool
JGedridge wrote:Hey all,
I am about 90% sure that the exterior wood on my tri-cabin is teak. Although the spray rails on the side by the waterline are mahogany because one rotted and I replaced it with teak.
I took the swimplatform off of the boat to redo it and it looks like the swimplatform is teak, bu the ladder going from the swimplatform to the back of the boat looks to be mahogany....Any help? I have no clue.
Joe

The treads on my ladder are Teak. The swim platform is glass and I'm not sure about the spray rails as they are painted black.
Ron

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:44 am
by alexander38
So what color gives that reddish brown of Teak and not that yellowish gold ?
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:50 am
by Allen Sr
I believe its the Cetol. Might be wrong but look it up on WM web site.
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:13 am
by captainmaniac
Cetol Marine has 3 flavours - 'regular', Light, and 'Natural'. Some people think the 'regular' looks orange over time. Light is the same stuff with less pigment. Natural is a bit different of a formulation - I think more like a varnish or varathane - that doesn't really have any pigment (I have never tried to use it yet).
You can also add Cetol Gloss on top of each of the Regular and Light finishes to give a really shiny top coat. You shouldn't use Gloss on any surface you will be walking on though, as it can get slippery when wet (but the other finishes stay sufficiently 'sticky' for use on decks, swim platforms, steps or ladder rungs).
Here is my 'wood finishes' photo album showing some examples of how the different finishes can look...
Wood Finish examples (part 1)
https://www.trojanboats.net/wforum/view ... f=1&t=3206
Wood Finish examples (part 2)
https://www.trojanboats.net/wforum/view ... =1&t=12738
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:56 am
by rossjo
Maniac,
Those photos are very helpful. Ive not used Cetol, but need to do the wood in my 26 this Spring, so will use Cetol this time.
Also need to make a floor for the interior cabin (load supporting). Someone mentioned a place where you can buy Teak and and Holly plywood ... ????
Jamestown distributors is pretty expensive.
Anyone use this stuff:
http://www.islandwaterworld.com/browse. ... ,9148.html

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:19 pm
by captainmaniac
With 4 coats of Cetol, I get about 4 years before any maintenance is really needed (and I maintain when it shows signs that water is starting to get through it (dark spots when wet) - I do it long before the whole thing looks like crap). Minor maintenance is a good cleaning (get rid of any gunk, bird or spider poop), light sanding to rough it up, then a couple of coats of Cetol (no sanding in between

).
Of course, Ontario vs SC... 'your mileage may vary'.
Other faux teak products for you to consider for your interior :
PlasTeak
http://www.unique-teak.com/cms/index.php
NuTeak
http://www.nuteak.com/
There are a few others. I also saw an article in DIY Boat not too long ago about a couple who redid their cockpit (cruising sailboat) with a faux teak product, but can't remember what the product was or find the issue... Maybe it will ring a bell for someone else.
BUT.. as I was looking for the issue I came across my 2006-1 edition. Some wiener with a 1978 Trojan F26 is showing off his restoration project... Nice write-up Paul!
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:19 pm
by JGedridge
Thanks everyone!!!!!
An Update on the boat: I re-striped the bottom to black and gold and its SHARP!!! also I took off the swimplatform and Im going to put the Natural Teak color from Cetol by Sikkens on there. I had the Natural Teak on my Pacemaker I had.
I will post some pics eventually of the boat, I want to but its in inside heated storage and is hard to get pics of. I also got my boat name ready to go on!
Joe
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:47 pm
by Paul
Weiner???

Glad you liked the article. They edited allot of info out of it but there's enough to get the picture.
Rossjo,
My cabin floors are done with this. It's real teak & holy laminated to marine ply. I chose the 1/4" teak & holly on ply and laminated it to 3/4" marine ply in the walkway and steps. Under the dinette and in the V berth, it's laminated to the original 1/2" ply. The finish is 3 coats of Cetol original. All of the vertical surfaces also have 2 coats of clear.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:15 pm
by Paul
Captainmaniac,
If you look back to DIY Boat Owner issue 2009 #1, you'll see a how to article that we did on installing a Teak & Holly floor and Teak veneer to bulkheads. The project boat was my Trojan as seen in my previous post. Using the teak ply helped the cost down and we are thrilled with the look of the interior.
Rossjo,
We purchased the teak ply from a place in Detroit called Public Lumber. In 2008 it cost me $95 per sheet for the 1/4" stuff.