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shorepower - panel indicator lights
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:51 am
by BobCT
You guys that have International's with the shorepower lights.... do they work?
Mine have never come on in three years except for one marina which I've traveled to twice. The voltage was about 125v and the outer two lights were blinking on each side of the panel.
If I understand the diagram correctly, they should always be lit. Other than the marina mentioned above, none of mine ever light up. Are they replaceable bulbs?
Bob
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:04 am
by S.A.M.
Bob
Mine work intermittently. I don't know if they're LED or bulbs. Could be lose wiring. An employee of mine alway says "85% of all electrical problems is due to a lose connection".
My previous boats had the same problem.
Let me know what you find out.
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:39 am
by Rnd
Mine are the same way. Meter reads voltage but the lights flicker or don't light at all. I'M always at the same marina and slip, but the lights are still intermittant.
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:39 am
by gettaway
with the age of our boats, I would highly doubt they are LED, so it is probably corroded or loose bulbs and or connectors
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:27 pm
by BobCT
I was thinking the same... did they use LED's in the late 80's?
I know the existed but don't think they were widely used. I'll check it out, if bulbs that's easy enough.
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:46 pm
by prowlersfish
Russian Oleg Vladimirovich Losev reported on the creation of a first LED in 1927 .
But were not put to much use until 1961 , but very costly , the cheap LEDs came out in the late 60s early 70s suitable for indicator lights . ( not lighting) and of course in recent years used for lighting and getting better all the time
so yes I asume there LEDs
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:56 pm
by Big D
I'm pretty sure you guys are talking about neon indicator lamps that were widely used in many industries, and in some applications still are. Pretty typical for them to flicker and dim over time but lasted longer than incandecent lamps. You can still find them at good electronics suppliers or retrofit with LED or incandecent indicator lights. The LEDs will last longer, be cooler, and use less energy.
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:03 pm
by koviak
My 10 meter is the same, lights flicker or nothing lights. Yes they are neon lights. Looking at converting to LED over the winter months. And yes I have checked and cleaned connections with the same results. Already changed one of the voltmeters as it buzzed and stopped reading. Used one made by Blue Seas.
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:46 am
by BobCT
Dennis,
Let me know what LEDS's you wind up doing and I'll do the same if I get to it before you.
Now on my winter list too.
Bob
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:34 am
by aaronbocknek
ahhh yes, the polarity indicator lamps for these boats do go bad over time. they are neon bulbs and after a while they just stop working. i'm assuming the ones you are speaking of say OPEN GROUND // OPEN NEUTRAL // ETC.... this drove me crazy when i bought the tri cabin last year. both sides of my panel have only one light that works. i actually had a marine electrician trace this, and he said everything was working but the lights burn out after decades of use. sea ray used these modules too... they are the
ALCO GT-33, which of course, are no longer made.
HOWEVER, i've discovered a direct replacement for them, but, the footprint is smaller and some form of frame/plate will have to be custom made to fit the new indicator lamps, and cover over the old indicator codes. the DIRECT replacement for the alco is made by SOLICO. it is the 34 SERIES, but make sure you get the ones with the wire leads. the replacement has two indicator lights, green for normal, red for reverse polarity. here is a website that lets you see what i'm talking about. i plan on doing this retrofit sometime late fall as i've already purchased the lights. when you do the rewire, make sure the green is to your left so that the orientation is the same and make each wire connection match exactly what you removed from the old indicator lamp. if that makes any sense.
hope this helps.
http://www.cmsquick.com/prod_11_LED_RET.html
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