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Engine Synchronizer
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:45 pm
by BMILLER
I have erratic tachometer readings (at best). Would it make sense to install engine sync gauges and not totally replace all the tachs. Seems as though the port tach at both stations is hanging, etc. Flybridge one starts to work after running a while and lower stabilizes when I turn on the instrument panel lights. I can't find any loose or corroded wires or connections.............yet. I thought maneuvering would be MUCH better knowing which engine is faster/slower. Now its a nightmare. I can't tell by the sound of the engines?
Tachs are Apelco..........OEM I presume.
Just wondering if this would be a easy way to "make do"..?
'78 F28, 318's
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:00 pm
by BMILLER
Duh......................Teleflex tachs....................
Apelco is the depth gauges.......................
My bad.
We don't need no stinkin' tachs
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:08 pm
by ready123
Just listen to the sound of the props. When in sync it will be deeper and more rhythmic.... of course if one's ear is not capable as you suggest then my idea is #+*.
Your concern about better maneuvering suggests to me that you would gain more by reducing the time each engine is in gear rather than having the engine rpm the same.
I notice that most people's difficulties are due to adding too much prop power rather than using longer moments of way in neutral... if that makes sense.
Too often we think as if we are in a car which generally only moves while the gear is engaged... the same is not true for the greater mass of a boat, it keeps on moving long after neutral has been selected.
Save your money for beer and spend more time honing your skills on the shifters

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:13 pm
by prowlersfish
Replace the tachs after all they going or are bad and need repair/replacement . then add a sync gauge if you like . When maneuvering I never look at the tachs . both engines should be idling the same anyway . if you need a little more thrust give a little juice and let off .
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:08 pm
by mitch
"I notice that most people's difficulties are due to adding too much prop power rather than using longer moments of weigh in neutral..."
Good point, well said
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:14 pm
by prowlersfish
for a novice maybe . for someone with experience no.
I really don't see people having issues with the use of throttle , maybe once in awhile.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:42 pm
by Stripermann2
I have gassers and don't use a sync. Just my ears to the engines.
We're all novices in some form or another...aren't we?

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:52 pm
by Big D
Check the wiring behind the helms both positives and negatives. Check the engine harnesses and their main plugs at engine, and helms for corroded pins. Check connections at distributor and coil. Poor points in a distributor can also cause erratic tachs. The tachs should have rotary or dip switches on the back that are to be set to the number of engine cylinders. These tend to corrode internally over time. Take note of their position, then rotate or rock the switch back and forth several times, return to proper position and test again. You may have to depress the rotary switch slightly for it to turn. Adding a sync without correcting this problem may give you an inaccurate sync reading.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:38 pm
by jordan
I like my sync, one big advantage I think, is not so much stress on the engines. I believe if the engines aren't synced the one that is turning a higher rpm is under more stress and potentially shorter engine life.
Just my two cents!
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:49 pm
by Big D
Three good points mitch. This is most important at higher RPM. As Paul mentioned earlier, while maneuvering it really shouldn't matter assuming we're talking in close quarters as throttle should be way down anyway, and any throttle adjustments made are just slight enough to overcome conditions and orient the vessel. The sync shouldn't play a role then as each engine's RPM is based on your short term needs at the time. The last thing I'd be looking at in close quartered maneuvering is a sync but to each his own.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:58 pm
by mitch
jordan wrote:I like my sync, one big advantage I think, is not so much stress on the engines. I believe if the engines aren't synced the one that is turning a higher rpm is under more stress and potentially shorter engine life.
Just my two cents!
Captain Jordan,
Thinking your theory thru, being analytical, one would have to assume 2 engines in sync would extend service life. No, generally speaking engines/motors, life are shorted by increase of duty cycle, heat/time. engineering 101. Mitch
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:22 pm
by prowlersfish
Stripermann2 wrote:I have gassers and don't use a sync. Just my ears to the engines.
We're all novices in some form or another...aren't we?

Novice statement was to using the throttles when docking not using a synchronizer , I don't use one . but will use throttles when docking if needed
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:39 pm
by mitch
prowlersfish wrote:Stripermann2 wrote:I have gassers and don't use a sync. Just my ears to the engines.
We're all novices in some form or another...aren't we?

Novice statement was to using the throttles when docking not using a synchronizer , I don't use one . but will use throttles when docking if needed
"will use throttles when docking"
NO, like landing a plane, power off during final, runway made or dock,
other wise, operator error ! Mitch
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:45 pm
by Big D
Under favourable conditions throttle isn't needed but conditions dictate that, ie; wind, current etc. If you don't use throttle in heavy current or wind conditions, you'll get in trouble real quick when trying to dock.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:21 pm
by prowlersfish
Docking a boat and landing a plane 2 different thngs by a mile . That what the huh was about .