Trojan Boat Forum

it's official. put the Trojan up for sale yesterday...( signed the contact anyway).Shrink wrap comes off on Saturday.Then put on the canvas, clean her up, take the pic's, splash on April 3rd ( which of course means we'll have a late snow storm ).Going to keep using her of course till sold, going to keep tinkering and fixing a few little things but no more major projects...no more major cruises....no more 25 gal per hour at $4.00 ( or higher) for this guy... no way am I going to spend $ 8,000 on fuel in 2 weeks again...Plan B: single engine diesel trawler....got my eye on several, but no moves until Midlife Crisis is sold.... (feels a little wierd, lots of great times on her, kids almost grew up on her in the summer....), wish me luck.( with the economy improving hope I don't have to give her away, but we'll take what the market will bear...)

I feel your pain with 25gph @ $4/gal. That's what my tri-cabin burns and I have done the $8k in 2 weeks for fuel; but to be fair we traveled a long distance, had a great time, and it took 14 days. Total cost was $10K. By comparison, I flew the family to Disney World 8 years ago for 5 days, stayed at the Polynesian Resort on the inside, had great food, great times, and spent nearly $10K for four of us. Personally, my wife and I liked the boat trip better, but I am a little biased. The kids liked Disney World better.

I guess it's a matter of perspective and I am glad you are not leaving boating, just changing boats. Good luck on the sale of your F-36 and your search for a new boat. Looking for your next boat is always a great adventure.

Please post up your links and photos.
Lake Erie is connected to Lake Ontario, albeit by a canal called the Welland.
And Toronto is not really that far away

Torcan wrote:Please post up your links and photos.
Lake Erie is connected to Lake Ontario, albeit by a canal called the Welland.
And Toronto is not really that far away

2-foot-itis kicking in already?

I know a 'custom' 36 (looks like a sedan, but was built custom on a tri-cabin hull) that would be pretty unique, if you are really looking.

captainmaniac wrote:

Torcan wrote:Please post up your links and photos.
Lake Erie is connected to Lake Ontario, albeit by a canal called the Welland.
And Toronto is not really that far away

2-foot-itis kicking in already?

I know a 'custom' 36 (looks like a sedan, but was built custom on a tri-cabin hull) that would be pretty unique, if you are really looking.

More like 11 foot itis

Don't get me wrong, I love my F25, but I find it a tad scary on a Lake the Size of Lake Ontario at times.
keeps me docked way more than I wish to be.

Torcan wrote:Don't get me wrong, I love my F25, but I find it a tad scary on a Lake the Size of Lake Ontario at times.
keeps me docked way more than I wish to be.

That's one of the downsides of the Bluffers area - or for that matter most Lake Ontario harbours. You leave the dock, and you are on the open lake (almost 25,000 square miles, according to wikipedia). Almost 200 miles long and abut 50 wide at the widest point - that's a lot of fetch for waves to build up over.

In Hamilton we have Hamilton Harbour (or Burington Bay, depending on where you live) - about 5 miles long and 2 miles wide - that you can still get out and stretch your legs on when the open lake is too snotty to venture out. But I guess if you can make it the few miles to the Eastern Gap, you can then toodle around Toronto harbour and the Island just as easily.

scared on a lake? dont tell me that! im taking my f25 into the Ocean might not ever leave the backyard now!! sorry about the breif hijack, and sorry to hear your selling the boat. That is alot of $$$ and they are talking about even higher gas prices sticking around. 8k in 2 weeks?? yea I couldnt do that even if I had the $$$ to. To think my grandfather owned 2 private planes when I was a kid. even back then I think I see where his $ went..

Jeff - one difference : open ocean, distance between waves is usually WAY more than shallower bodies of water. Waves come up faster in shallower water, and waves are closer than open ocean.

I would rather deal with 10-20 foot swells with a nice, reliable wave pattern that are waaaay far apart, than 4-5 footers coming from multiple directions, with 'constructive' interference patterns resulting in 6-8 footers with whitecaps coming out of nowhere, every 5-10 seconds. If we have a storm blowing the length of the lake, that gets the seas running one way with 200 miles of fetch behind them). If the storm is gone but there is a cross wind the next day, you get the combination of the 2 wave patterns.

If it ain't fun, it ain't worth it. I pick my days.

captainmaniac wrote:
If it ain't fun, it ain't worth it. I pick my days.

Your absolutely right captn. It can be a beautiful day out, nice sunshine, warm weather, but a 15 knot wind can whip up some nice waves on the Lake, not much fun if you constantly feel like your in the spin cycle of a washing machine.

Best we can hope for on our side of the Lake are low winds from the N or NW, off the land. Anything coming from the south or East gives us some nice waves, great for sailors, but not so much for us power boaters.

WOW I would have never guessed that. Always think of lakes as calm and flat. but we dont have lakes that big here. Ive never been on one bigger than 15 miles long

jefflaw35 wrote:WOW I would have never guessed that. Always think of lakes as calm and flat. but we dont have lakes that big here. Ive never been on one bigger than 15 miles long

Take a US Power Squadron course - well worth the time, and what you will learn could save your life.

jefflaw35 wrote:WOW I would have never guessed that. Always think of lakes as calm and flat. but we dont have lakes that big here. Ive never been on one bigger than 15 miles long

Yup.. That's why they call them The Great Lakes. Winds and storms come out of no where, sinking huge freight ships. Look up The Edmund Fitzgerald.
Nasty waves, and whitecaps have swamped many a boat on these lakes.

BTW.. Sorry to the OP, kinda did hijack the thread, all started with my comment of wanting something a little BIGGER.

captainmaniac wrote:
Take a US Power Squadron course - well worth the time, and what you will learn could save your life.

Got that captn, Canadian Power squadron out of Ashbridges Bay

Yea Capt, we are doing it in May, we have to do our drivers lisences around here now as well. so We are going to tackle all these courses. Torcan that worries me cause my daughters live in chicago and their 25 yr old step dad just bought a 18 foot ski boat....Ive already said NO, but 1000 miles away, im sure im not being listen to. And Im sorry the hijack was my fault...rambling again

OK, OK, OK... back to the original post... from one Cdn to another - hope you get out of what you don't want, and into what you do want, without problem. There... is that a politically correct and non-deterministic enough statement? It's the Canadian way, after all!

jefflaw35 wrote:Yea Capt, we are doing it in May, we have to do our drivers lisences around here now as well. so We are going to tackle all these courses. Torcan that worries me cause my daughters live in chicago and their 25 yr old step dad just bought a 18 foot ski boat....Ive already said NO, but 1000 miles away, im sure im not being listen to. And Im sorry the hijack was my fault...rambling again

Just find out if they are planning on using the boat on Lake Michigan, or one of the many small Lakes in Michigan. If Lake Michigan, as long as it is close to shore and in the sheltered Harbours, shouldn't be a problem.