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bilge pumps and high water alarms for 10 meter express

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:26 pm
by gmelectrician
Hi again,

Someone also stole all the bilge pumps and high water alarms off my 10 meter express last winter. I am looking for new pumps/alarms.

Does anyone know where I can get original pumps/alarms/etc?

Any info on make and model numbers would be helpful too!!!

Thanks again,

Scott

Re: bilge pumps and high water alarms for 10 meter express

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:28 pm
by K4282
hi water alarm for water in the bilge? are the pumps the same as my F32, i could look at mine, I even have 2 extras, no alarms though

Re: bilge pumps and high water alarms for 10 meter express

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:30 pm
by P-Dogg
Damn I hate crooks. Too bad you can't leave your boat in the same place this winter and make some bilge pump impellers out of sodium, then leave the pumps in easy reach, stored in mineral oil. When they hit water, there would be a somewhat violent reaction... But I digress.


I don't have separate high water alarm switches for my tricabin. She sits bow low when at rest, and stern low when underway. If the center of three bilge pumps ever turns on, there is a problem. Consequently, I just wired my alarm to the center pump indicator light that is on the helm. It is a low-current-draw alarm with flashing LEDs and piezoelectric buzzer that I can't recall specs for right now. I have a switch to disable the alarm.

If a ten meter express owner doesn't chime in soon with an exact answer on pump size, you can back calculate pump size based on the breakers that serve the pumps. Plus examine the size of the discharge hose. I'd also see about getting all the manuals for your boat, as your answer might be there, and they will come in handy in the future anyway. Try Beacon.

And welcome to the forum!

Re: bilge pumps and high water alarms for 10 meter express

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:08 pm
by RWS
Chiming in

The pumps and float switches are all standard marine grade stuff.

As I recall mine are 1500 Rules.

I have since added TWO separate emergency bilge pumps, one in the engine room and one in the fwd bilge (lowest point at rest on my express)

I have also recently added a bilge counter to the fwd bilge (photos & detail to be posted in the future)

There are three bilges in the original International express cruiser based, vacuum liner design.

There are three additional and separate bilge pump float switches that are elevated a bit higher in each bilge than the working pump system.

These are wired into the horn circuit.

When a bilge fills above the standard level and actuates one of the alarm switches, the horn will sound.

I believe there is a relay wired into it to make the horn toot on and off (mine does not do this).

These are standard chandlery items, and are not unique to Trojan Internationals.

Correct maintenance and operation of the bilge system is essential to keeping your boat safe and afloat.

These systems should be checked regularly.

RWS

Re: bilge pumps and high water alarms for 10 meter express

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:15 pm
by RWS
scroll down for a photo of an actual bilge alarm float switch;


http://www.trojanboats.net/wforum/viewt ... arm#p47784

RWS

Re: bilge pumps and high water alarms for 10 meter express

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:35 am
by todd brinkerhoff
Someone had disconnected my high water alarms as well. There is a relay at the junction area where most of the wires come together. My junction area is located on the wall behind the AC/DC box. It was just a matter of finding the original wiring, and tieing back into the system. We reconnected the alarm system, which is connected to the boat's horn. The relay will cause the horn to turn on and off in intervals. The boat came with air horns, so it will definately will draw attention of the dock hands. Of course, they probably won't know what to do. :?

As RWS said, the bilge pumps are pretty standard. Mine are all Rule 2000's. The alarm switch is nothing more than a regular float switch that you can buy at any marine store. The original "alarm" switches had a sticker that said they were alarms switches, but they are nothing different that a regular float switch. The "EXTRA" float is attached higher on the pump and wired into you alarm wiring. Best bet is to look at your original wiring diagram.

I check the alarms every time the boat makes a splash in the Spring. It's part of the recommissioning process. You PEOPLE in the horrible south will probably need to figure out a schedule for testing your systems since you never take your boats out.