Trojan International 10.8 Meter EXPRESS

RWS · Post by **RWS** » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:45 am

wow

all this information needs to be culled and saved.

RWS

todd brinkerhoff · Post by **todd brinkerhoff** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:38 pm

The Trojan International 10.8 Meter Express

The Pershing Yacht 40

Trojan International 10.8 Meter Express

The Pershing Yacht 40

todd brinkerhoff · Post by **todd brinkerhoff** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:17 am

Pershing Yachts:

The Pershing Yacht story began in 1981 with wooden boats built by 3 seagoing fanatics, each with considerable yacht building experience and a passion for fast cruising yachts. By 1985, the Pershing 45â€™ was born, designed in collaboration with Fulvio De Simoni and met with instant success, due to its numerous innovations. By the early 1990â€™s, Pershing had expanded to a worldwide yacht dealer network, with over 70% of their production going to the Far East and United States.

In 1998, Pershing became part of the Ferretti Group and gained worldwide exposure through the intense marketing efforts of yachts by this conglomerate, which has resulted in an expansive range of sport yachts and ultimately large motor yachts, with an emphasis on speed and handling. In 2004, Pershing opened a new manufacturing headquarters in Mondolfo, Italy to adapt and implement the latest technologies and materials used in the construction of yachts.

A 1990 Pershing 45

Pershing 108

ready123 · Post by **ready123** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:28 am

Pershing 72 at Little Current, North channel, Georgian Bay, ONTARIO
This one had Arneson surface drives... you could see the rooster tail from miles away before you saw the boat.

todd brinkerhoff · Post by **todd brinkerhoff** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:09 pm

In March, 1985, Whittaker sold part of its interest in Bertram and three other marine companies to Investcorp in a leveraged buyout. The transaction results in Whittakerâ€™s portfolio becoming three newly formed companies. One, Bertram-Trojan, Inc., acquires the assets of the Bertram Yacht and Trojan Yacht divisions. In 1986 Bertram introduces its sleek and newly styled 37 Convertible, that is considered by many as the "best mid-size convertible in its class".

Comparison between the Bertram 37 Convertible, that was produced between 1986 and 1993, and the Trojan International 10.8 Meter Express Hulls, produced from 1990 until 1992:

Bertram 37 Convertible
LOA - 39'
LWL - 37' 9"
Beam - 13' 3"
Draft - 3' 9"
Deadrise - 18 Degrees

Trojan Internation 10.8M Express
LOA - 39' 4"
LWL - 36' 5"
Beam - 13' 2"
Draft - 3' 7"
Deadrise - 18 Degrees

Bertram 37

Trojan 10.8M Express

Bertram 37

Trojan 10.8M Express

Bertram 37

Trojan 10.8M Express

Bertram 37

Trojan 10.8M Express

Boatbuilder · Post by **Boatbuilder** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:10 pm

Todd

Great job on your research of the Trojan 10.8 Meter Express, particularly with so little current information available. After reviewing your posts I have just a few comments.

First, in my opinion the 10.8 Meter Express, as the last model developed, was one of the most sophisticated designs ever produced at Trojan from concept through execution. If I were going to purchase a Trojan it would be the 10.8 M Express. As you may find, there is a world of difference in the design details and quality between the Trojan 10.8 M and the Carver model that is similar.

The reasons that Trojan produced so few 10.8 M Express models were because industry wide the market was off by 85% during the luxury tax era and Trojan did not have the financial resources available to produce many boats of any model after the 10.8 M Express was developed due to the financial condition of Bertram-Trojan, Inc. just before its filing for Chapter 11. The NMMA stated that, as a result of the luxury tax, 24 boat manufacturs went out of business including Trojan and Bertram.

With regard to performance, as you probably know, weight is a major factor along with wind and sea conditions. The speed of a planning hull is very weight sensative. Increased weight due to hard tops and other aftermarket items as well as owners gear can make a tremendous difference. With increased weight, props sometimes need to be adjusted to keep the engines running at the proper RPM's to optimize speed and fuel efficiency.

The main reason for installing V-Drives in the 10.8. Meter Express was to increase the amount if interior space forward of the engines.

Again, excellent job on your research.

Best Regards,

Charlie

todd brinkerhoff · Post by **todd brinkerhoff** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:42 pm

Thanks Charlie! It was great talking to you. It is always a tremendous opportunity to talk to a an executive from Trojan. I thank you for your assistance in gathering information on this rare, but fantastic boat. The more I learn, the more excited I get about owning a rare gem.

Here is a good article on some of the benefits a of V-drive, and specifically a remote V-drive, which the 10.8 Meter Express has;

http://www.sbmar.com/articles/why_v_dri ... hy_remote/

RWS · Post by **RWS** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:33 pm

Todd,

all of this deserves to be saved for posterity.

RWS

todd brinkerhoff · Post by **todd brinkerhoff** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:40 am

RWS wrote:Todd,

all of this deserves to be saved for posterity.

RWS

Hey RWS,

Let me know what you need for you Trojan International site. I'd be happy to assist.

Peter-NL · Post by **Peter-NL** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:34 pm

Todd,

Thank you for all the information on the 10.8 meter.

I have just purchased a 10.8 trojan with cat 3116 in Europe (i am from the Netherlands) This is probably the only one here in Europe.
I think i have building nr. 16. It has all the options even an autopilot and saltwater converter.

I have also a big cradle full of all kind of books and papers of trojan and of the 10.8 with the boat. I will sort them out and scan the important ones and put them online.

If you have more info on the 10.8 i would be happy to hear it. Reading your lasts post about the 10.8 made a big smile on my face:-)

todd brinkerhoff · Post by **todd brinkerhoff** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:51 am

Peter-NL wrote:Todd,

Thank you for all the information on the 10.8 meter.

I have just purchased a 10.8 trojan with cat 3116 in Europe (i am from the Netherlands) This is probably the only one here in Europe.
I think i have building nr. 16. It has all the options even an autopilot and saltwater converter.

I have also a big cradle full of all kind of books and papers of trojan and of the 10.8 with the boat. I will sort them out and scan the important ones and put them online.

If you have more info on the 10.8 i would be happy to hear it. Reading your lasts post about the 10.8 made a big smile on my face:-)

That's awesome Peter. Another Diesel. Can you put up your hin number so i can figure out when your boat was made and hull #? Also, please post your experiences with the boat and any pictures. We're a small group, so I'm interested in everyones opinions and experiences. You have some very unique features.

Hopefully a Trojan book will include this very unique boat.

Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:56 am

Looks like a nice one in Ohio for sale.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/boa/3238379960.html

todd brinkerhoff · Post by **todd brinkerhoff** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:14 pm

Wish it was diesel...might be tempted....

todd brinkerhoff · Post by **todd brinkerhoff** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:15 pm

Double post...

aaronbocknek · Post by **aaronbocknek** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:22 am

this has to be, hands down, one of the most fascinating threads on this site. i've read it over at least twice and i find i'm gaining more and more insight into this particular model. all this VALUABLE information needs to be incorporated into the upcoming trojan book. if not, it needs to be printed and bound as a stand alone entity unto itself. if any of you intend on doing a history of the 'last' 10.8 meter express, including background info, pics, designs, etc.... i'd love a hard copy of this. i know that there are others out there just as interested. thanks todd and 'boatbuilder' for making my 'not so good chemo day' much better. it gave me something else to focus on this morning. again, thanks.

tri cabin aaron, baltimore, md.