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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:58 am
by prowlersfish
Ross look at the specs on boatdiesel 210 at 2800 a 215 at 2400
a 355 at 2600 375 at 2800 etc crazy ! he needs to look at the eng plate

22x22 w/ 1.53:1

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:21 pm
by rossjo
22x22 3-blades w/ 1.53:1 on a 1.5" shaft is nice.

Runs 25knots?

You must have the P-Pumps on your 6BTAs? I've got the Lucas CAVs, and they won't pump enought fuel to go past 220HP.

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:20 pm
by prowlersfish
bosh inline pump 27.6 knots levers to the stops full on fuel and water
same when low no difrenct. but let a few things grow on the bottom she slows down
Paul

Bosh P-Pumps

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:13 pm
by rossjo
I thought so - I'm going to look for a spair of Bosch P-Pumps and injectors thi winter. Need that extra 80x2=160HP!

He has a naturally aspirated 3280 Cat. 3208-NA ....


Caterpillar 3208-NA
8 Cylinder, Naturally Aspirated Marine Diesel Engine
Rating, HP, RPM
A 150 2400
C 210 2800
D 210 2800
E 210 2800

I don't think it will go to 375HP without turbos and aftercoolers ...

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:35 pm
by prowlersfish
Ross to get 80 more hp you need to go with a salt water after cooler also . but for the engine to stand up you need to do internal changes
like pistons valve rotators etc. there was a post on boatdiesel about doing this on a 210?? Tony recc it not be done . check the posts maybe you can find it its been a few weeks I think
Paul

when we going fish in south am. ?? :D

6BTAs

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:02 am
by rossjo
Right, I have Jacket Water Cooled, but I see these @ 260HP rating Intermittent duty.

I'll look @ BoatDeisel again - I would love to have 50HP each more at least (occasionally),.

What does your F36 weigh?

We're going right by there in Dec - Caymans, Cozumel and Key West on a 7-day cruise, bt won't get to fish then. I'm starting a new business which is taking all of my spare time now (16-20 hour days). Have to have manufactured inventory ready by end of Jan for a show.

venzeuala is the place for Sailfish, but Charleston SC has turned on hot this year as well. We have guys catcing 5-10 a day in Sep/Oct! One boat near me went 18 for 40 on Sails here - hard to belive. But its 50-60 miles out to where they are ...

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:38 pm
by prowlersfish
16000 lbs with gas engines from the factory I heard thats low same info puts yours at 12000 . so the anser is 4000 lbs more that your boat
now who has more junk on there boat ? I bet I realy start getting heavier then
Paul

more weight?

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:07 am
by rossjo
Well, I don't ant to win a weight competition. I'm actually working on a Tron F32 Diet Plan!

I have 60 miles to run offshroe to fish - and really could improved fuel mileage! Even weeekdn cruises would benefit.

Ideas:
> Remcving inside doors (both gone now),
> Aluminum Fortress FX-23 anchors, 2 ea. (have swapped already - these ARE the best!)
> remove my 500# Onan generator - install bigger alternators and batteries and use an inverter for the day trip -shore power @ night
> replacing plywood (mine were rebuilt to clear the 6BTAs - nice, but heavy) saloon floors with 3/16" lexan with alum frames,
> 1/4" tinted lexan side (and rear?) windows
> replace saloon siliding door with thinner version (may not be worth it).
> other ideas?

This should drop 1,000#+ ...

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:10 am
by jav
Capt. Ross,

weight reduction is a nice goal but I'd be careful with the 3/16 lexan floors. Lexan (or polycarbonate) has great impact resistance but is very weak in the flat. I changed my side windows to 1/4" lexan becuase I had some cracks and if I had it to do over, I would have gone with tempered glass. The lexan looks nice but vibrates excessively... especially with diesels at idle or no wake speeds. It's also hard to clean without causing scratches.


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got to save weight!

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:16 am
by rossjo
Any other weight saving ideas?

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:58 am
by jav
Theres a product called "coosa" that would make good flooring and would likely save some weight... but not a lot. In my case, I added sounddown to my engine room and that stuff is not light, but it does help the noise, I don't think there's a lot of fat on our base boats that we could strip off for weights sake. I know for me, the only real difference I could make is in what I've loaded on board like tools, spares, supplies etc..

Coosa

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:43 am
by rossjo
Coosa sounds familiar to the Divinicyl foam coring material I've used on my other boats.

I think I'll start a thread on Weight Savings and see if it generates any good ideas ...