Rudders

jordan · Post by **jordan** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:24 pm

This has probably been discussed here before, but I will ask. I read an article somewhere that by putting a little larger size rudder on a F-32 you can stop a lot of the bad actions of a following sea. Has anyone tried this or have comments. If it is true can the rudders have pieces welded on or do I need to purchase new rudders. This is going to be the spring where ours sit on land for a time and gets new fuel tanks, teak and holly galley floor (inspiration for that was looking at all the beautiful work others have done here) new counters and cabinet doors, new cushions and covers and repaint flybridge. Thanks guys for all the good info on this site, it has made owning a Trojan a pleasure and a source of pride.
Jim

JuiceClark · Post by **JuiceClark** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:36 pm

A commercial fisherman once told me one big company has made most of the rudders for production boats for decades. Of course, I just can't remember the name! However, I bet one of the ol' salts in here knows what I'm talking about. New designs may even be a little more hydro-dynamic to make up for the larger size.

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:58 am

Buckalgonquin

Buckalgonquin.com

wowzer52 · Post by **wowzer52** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:52 am

A couple of the marine services that I know of use a bolt on rudder extension, quick and easy. I plan on doing it this way myself after I get through with some of the other projects. As for now, when in following seas (wandering mode) I raise my trim tabs and pick up a little speed and that helps.

JuiceClark · Post by **JuiceClark** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:20 pm

prowlersfish wrote:Buckalgonquin

Buckalgonquin.com

Oh yeah! That's it!! My memory is the worst.

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:11 pm

JuiceClark wrote:
prowlersfish wrote:Buckalgonquin

Buckalgonquin.com

Oh yeah! That's it!! My memory is the worst.

Its a good thing my computer has memory other wise we would still be lookin

Peter · Post by **Peter** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:00 pm

I asked the same question of this forum last summer [see teeny tiny rudders]. The only comment I got was perhaps my rudders are out of alignment, and the size [at least in later models was adequate]. Then of course while following the form many people with either F 32's or F36's have commented on difficult handling in a significant quartering or following sea at slower [even trawling] speeds. Interesting how things go around. [By the way, checked rudder alignment on the hard, they're fine, just too small in my humble opinion]

by the way, it's that friggin ground hog that's got me pissed.

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:09 pm

I have not seen others complane of ruder size on a f 36 . I am still thinking of going smaller . Peter do you have a F36 conv or a tricabin ?

Peter · Post by **Peter** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:27 pm

convertable

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:01 am

I always felt the rudders on the conv were on the large size . The handling in a following sea is more of a hull issue , but the larger ruders may help correct faster . I don't think the F36 is any worse then most in a following sea .

jimbo36 · Post by **jimbo36** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:59 pm

I agree, the F36, in a follwing sea, is quite differant due to the hull length vs width. The F32 is rather beamy at 13 feet. More transom width and less keel length for stability. the F36, being longer with the same 13 foot beam handles better. More hull, more control. Less yawing. Still gives the helmsman a work out though. But will rarely wave surf like the F32. Jimbo.