Weekend Weather NJ to MA

cuppa · Post by **cuppa** » Tue May 05, 2009 9:45 am

What are everyones thoughts on this weekends Weather. I am supposed to be bringing by new boat North this weekend, but am unsure of the Weather. The Boat is a 36 trojan and I am headed from Barnegat NJ to MA.... What are your thoughts would you go this weekend. or wouldyou wait.. Scattered showers possibely thunderstorms 30% wind 5-10 Seas 3-4?
This is for Friday and that would be the NJ to NYC leg?

What would you do?

Thanks
Cuppa

jav · Post by **jav** » Tue May 05, 2009 10:12 am

The weather and sea's reported probably don't pose a problem for the boat.

BUT- water temps are still sub 50 degrees. This means that IF the unimaginable happens, ending up in the water without a survival suit is an extremely dangerous and extremely time sensitive situation. So early in the season, help may not be close enough to get to you in time.

With an unknown boat, the only way I'd risk it would be with a full compliment of safety gear- Epirb, Life raft, survival suit. Otther than that- I'd wait for warmer water and more boater activity.

For the record- I am extremely respectful of the ocean and even more so, a cold ocean. I know a lot of guys that would do this and not think twice but- going in the drink when the water is this cold is IMHO, a huge factor in addition to the weather.

cuppa · Post by **cuppa** » Tue May 05, 2009 10:25 am

I should say this is via east river...

kevin babineau · Post by **kevin babineau** » Tue May 05, 2009 11:22 am

5-10mph wind isnt much....and 3-4 seas isnt bad...but the sea can change at any minute...i guess the question would be is how familar are you with the boat and how well do u know the course ur gonna take....do u have gps and satallite nav.?...have u made to trip before? do u have seatow? if ur going down from mass im in saugus i might take the trip with u to have an extra hand on deck if ur going it alone...

mr elevman · Post by **mr elevman** » Tue May 05, 2009 5:25 pm

are you going out the barnaget inlet if so be carefull very bad inlet hi tide the north jetty is under water proceed to the marker befor you head north 3-5 rollers on a good day in the inlet and hevey chop outside voted one of the worst inlets on the east coast

Stripermann2 · Post by **Stripermann2** » Tue May 05, 2009 6:13 pm

Cuppa, we really need more info. What do you have planned as far as your route, daily destinations, etc...? Do you have back-up plans if the weather turns for the worst? I would have minimum- epirb or a SPOT at least, to let family and friends know where you are.,extra fuel filters, oil, spark plugs, plenty of tools, etc onboard for any run such as yours. How many miles per day do you wish to cover? I think it's roughly 200 plus miles. You also may take into account, the tides at a daily destinations, dependent on your route. Are you figuring in holes to ditch-in, in case of high winds or storms?

Not sure which model 36...Sedan? If you would share your thoughts about this trip, we could help you lay it out. Figure 100 miles per day on a conservative note.

Edit: Okay, I see you are heading to NY. Still... float plans?

duchess · Post by **duchess** » Tue May 05, 2009 8:14 pm

Barnegat inlet can be a problem if its in a NE wind if windy go inside until manasquan then outside and up the east river to the sound stay over somewhere on the sound then up to boston. personally i think i would wait until next wekend, the others advice about the inlet and what tools etc to have on board are very sound . good luck. if you get stuck or in trouble i am fairly close to the mantaloking bridge and have enough dock space to put you up for a while Tom DUCHESS.

wet wonder · Post by **wet wonder** » Wed May 06, 2009 12:12 am

The weather doesn't sound like an issue, so I would do it. It sounds like great fun and I wish I was going. Of course, this is all presuming your confident about the boat, which is a factor for any trip, irrespective of the weather. I agree with the comment about water temps. Bring a blowup raft as insurance. You can get one for $100.

cuppa · Post by **cuppa** » Thu May 07, 2009 3:18 pm

I will have the epirb, lift raft and plenty of tools..

I am thinking of going inside up to Manesquam from Barnegat then out side out of the manesquam inlet to stay out of the weather.

Has any one done it, how shallow is it? how are the depths?

Wes · Post by **Wes** » Thu May 07, 2009 7:24 pm

Long Island Sound can be a very treacherous place. 2 Years ago we set out for Plum Gut with reported 1 to 2 foot seas. By the time we got to the gut we were fighting at least 6 footers. If you make the trip, which is fun, know where you can take refuge if you need it.

ActThree · Post by **ActThree** » Fri May 08, 2009 9:37 am

This is Friday so Cuppa has probably already left - or not. I've done part of the trip twice: Barnegat to Old Saybrook, CT. Once out at Mannesqan, you can run north a mile off the beach following a preplanned GPS heading. There is really no place to go in until Belmar. I'd stop on the first day at Atlantic Highlands, NJ, right across lower NY bay. That's not anywhere near one-third of the trip but with an unfamiliar boat, I know that I'd need to stop and check things out. For the next day, the trip up the East River is spectacular but you need to catch the tide right and watch for debris in the water and commercial traffic, which runs on there all the time. Once in Long Island Sound, I'd run as far as the eastern end (that's 100 miles in itself) and stop in Connecticut, perhaps Stonington. That would be a very long day of boating and probably more than I would attempt unless I had a second captain aboard who knew the area well. After that, there is another very long day that probably involves the Cape Cod Canal, another spot where you really want to catch the tide just right. Maybe I'm getting old, but I'd do this trip in four days and avoid the white knuckle, late day navigation.

mr elevman · Post by **mr elevman** » Fri May 08, 2009 5:58 pm

that would be better then going thru the bareget inlet the manasquawn is no prob with depth

cuppa · Post by **cuppa** » Sun May 10, 2009 8:35 pm

Hello,

Just wanted to give the update. I took Delivery of the Boat Thursday and I left Barnegat at 6 AM Friday Morning and made it to Liberty Landing NJ Across from Manhattan by 11:30 there were 2-3 footers and some fog but it was a good ride for the most part. The Barnegat inlet was interesting probably 5-6 footers right at the mouth but the boat handled it great...

We left Liberty Landing at 5:45 AM and made it through the sound and made it to just south of the Connecticut River by 11:30, where we ran in to some fuel problems, lost one motor then the second 10 minutes after that. I am suspecting water or some contaminant in the Tank. We had run the FWD stbd tank down to a quarter turned the aft tanks on and 1/2 hour later turned the stbd fwd tank off. About one hour after turned the FWD port tank off. Once this was done the motors shut down.... So we got sea tow to give us some gas and we then refuel.... (Flat Seas Heavy Fog..). The interesting this is that the port aft tank was full, so I have some type of problem getting gas out of that..

So after this whole situation could not get the port motor started, change both filters (had them on board) still nothing getting to the carb.. It started with either fine.... we were getting fuel in the bowls so I knew the pump was working ok..... We then removed the rigid line from the fuel pump up to the carb and flushed it a bunch of crap came out...... then the motor started.... Yea... it is 3pm now..

So now here was the stupid part we headed back out in to the fog.... it was still flat, and then we made it to the race...wow was that an experience, it resembled the perfect storm... Flat as a pancake then something like nine footers coming from all directions, I could not see them because of the fog... immediately changed direction from E to N around up to Fisher Island we immediately got out of that mess and headed up the Thames River.

Need to complete the trip later in the week..

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