Dumb questions by newbie

This forum is for comments and the exchange of information relating to Trojan Boats and boating. Please do not post used parts or boats For Sale in this area. For general, non-boating topics please use our "General Discussions" section.

Note: Negative or inflammatory postings will not be tolerated.

Moderators: BeaconMarineBob, Moderator, BeaconMarineDon

Post Reply
moveover
Registered user
Posts: 6
Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:00 pm

Dumb questions by newbie

Post by moveover »

Hi folks. I just got a 36' flybridge, 1981, and i have few pretty basic questions if anyone has the time to answer them:
1. If I take the boat out and anchor for a few hours, can i run the cd palyer without worrying about draining the batteries? The boat has a generator. Would it be wise to turn it on? I'm always kinda paranoid about not having the battery power to turn over my engines when away from the dock.
2. What is the emergency start switch on the dashboard at the helm in the salon?
3. There are 3 black circular switches that send power to the 2 helms and boat systems. However, last time I was out, the throttle, gear shift and guages on the bridged worked fine, but other items on the bridge like windless, horn and gps had no power.? thanks
User avatar
ready123
Ultimate User
Posts: 1841
Joined: Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:53 pm
Location: Mactier, Ontario Canada
Contact:

Re: Dumb questions by newbie

Post by ready123 »

moveover wrote:Hi folks. I just got a 36' flybridge, 1981, and i have few pretty basic questions if anyone has the time to answer them:
1. If I take the boat out and anchor for a few hours, can i run the cd palyer without worrying about draining the batteries? The boat has a generator. Would it be wise to turn it on? I'm always kinda paranoid about not having the battery power to turn over my engines when away from the dock.
2. What is the emergency start switch on the dashboard at the helm in the salon?
3. There are 3 black circular switches that send power to the 2 helms and boat systems. However, last time I was out, the throttle, gear shift and guages on the bridged worked fine, but other items on the bridge like windless, horn and gps had no power.? thanks
We need more information.

1)
What is size of batteries?
Are you using a power amplifier?
2) That will connect both engine batteries together to start one engine.
3)Were all three turned on? If not then that was reason for no power to those items.
Michael
Rum is the reason Pirate's have never ruled the world
Done Dreamin'
1987 President 43' Twin Lehman 225SP Turbo
Highfield 310 Ally 15 HP Yamaha 2cycle
1978 F32 Sedan twin 318 Chry SOLD
Safe Cove Marina, Port Charlotte, FL
moveover
Registered user
Posts: 6
Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:00 pm

Post by moveover »

Yes Ready all 3 power switches were turned on. I dont understand why all the main controls would work, rpm guage, temp etc but not the ancillary ones like the windlass, gps and horn. I didnt think to try the radio to see if that worked.
Regarding the CD player system, it's not one of those massive after-market deals. No big amps.
Battery set-up - I'm afraid i dont know the specifics, # and size.
User avatar
Stripermann2
Ultimate User
Posts: 3027
Joined: Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:11 am
Location: Solomon's Island, MD

Post by Stripermann2 »

Be sure that your accessory switches are on...crazy wiring that a previous owner may have done. Turn every switch on to find out...and be sure to turn the two accessory switches on at the helm.

On mine, before I fixed it, the stereo wouldn't work unless the trim tab switch in the panel was on. Go figure! :roll:
Jamie


1985 F-32 270 Crusaders
1988 Sea Ray 23 350 Merc.
Trojan. Enjoy the ride...

-I don't wanna hear anyone whine...Anymore!
-You might get there before me, but you still have to wait for me, for the fun to start!
moveover
Registered user
Posts: 6
Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:00 pm

Post by moveover »

"Accessory switch at the helm"? That may be my problem.
I dont recall seeing that switch. At the lower station there about 12 switches above the helm on the headliner but they all have names - bilge pump, blower, etc. I dont recall seeing any switch upstairs or down that says accessory switch.
TC
Sporadic User
Posts: 138
Joined: Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:02 pm
Location: Cambridge Ont Canada

Post by TC »

Moveover:
Welcome to "previously enjoyed" boats. Expect anything cause nothing is logic. The owner did whatever for a reason you cannot fathom. He did something to cut a corner, too lazy, didn't know how, or wanted to be "thrifty".
If you're not well versed in electricity your best bet would probably buy a good marine electrical book, and read. As ready 123 said you cannot make any guesses about how long your power will last until you know and understand battery capacity and all your load demands.
If you can get a wiring diagram of your boat you will be days ahead, but you have to understand it.
You will find where to prior owner has changed something along the way. Re wired or spliced into another circuit causing back feed, or reversed wires somewhere. Sometimes you have to physically trace a wire to find the problem. Example: I just finished installing a "smart charger". After getting everthing put away I found the charger was off. I started to investigate, turned around, it was working. Fifteen minutes later it was off. Long story short, I traced the wire from the master circuit panel to the charger and found in a hiden compartment he had installed a charge mate which was sencing battery voltage and turning on and off the charger. My guess is the old charger lost it's ablity to regulate voltage and instead of replacing the charger he cheaped out and installed this device.
I have owned this boat for 2 years and am still finding surprises.
Anyhow, read, ask questions and get some electrical test equipment, and welcome to the learning curve.
1989 F-32
Penetang,
Georgian Bay
User avatar
prowlersfish
2025 Gold Support
2025 Gold Support
Posts: 12725
Joined: Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:56 pm
Location: Lower Chesapeake Bay ,Va

Post by prowlersfish »

I 've had mine for 5 years and still finding things
Boating is good for the soul
77/78 TROJAN F36 Conv.
6BTA Cummins diesels
Life is to short for a ugly boat :D
moveover
Registered user
Posts: 6
Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:00 pm

Post by moveover »

Thanks very much guys, I really appreciate it.
User avatar
prowlersfish
2025 Gold Support
2025 Gold Support
Posts: 12725
Joined: Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:56 pm
Location: Lower Chesapeake Bay ,Va

Post by prowlersfish »

Where is your boat at ? if its near one of use mabe one off use could take a look to see it your turning on the right stuff.
Boating is good for the soul
77/78 TROJAN F36 Conv.
6BTA Cummins diesels
Life is to short for a ugly boat :D
moveover
Registered user
Posts: 6
Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:00 pm

Post by moveover »

I'm in CT, near greenwich,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thanks for the interest.
User avatar
prowlersfish
2025 Gold Support
2025 Gold Support
Posts: 12725
Joined: Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:56 pm
Location: Lower Chesapeake Bay ,Va

Post by prowlersfish »

Any F36 owners near bye willing to help Him ??
Boating is good for the soul
77/78 TROJAN F36 Conv.
6BTA Cummins diesels
Life is to short for a ugly boat :D
1967 seavoyager
Moderate User
Posts: 302
Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 1:01 am
Location: Liverpool, NY
Contact:

Post by 1967 seavoyager »

I don't know if the woodies were wired the same as the tupperware boats but i have the wiring diagram from mine on my photobucket page. look for "emer start"
They'll pry a rotten plank from my cold dead fingers before i go "Tupperware". http://www.photobucket.com/restless
seavoyager36@hotmail.com

"Restless"
1967 Trojan 36' Sea Voyager Express
Post Reply