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S.A.M. · Post by **S.A.M.** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:51 pm

Came across this one in Dallas

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/boa/1321455718.html

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:04 pm

Why do they say Built By bertram When they are not ?

ready123 · Post by **ready123** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:09 pm

prowlersfish wrote:Why do they say Built By bertram When they are not ?

Was it from the short period that Betram owned Trojan prior to going to Carver. As Betrams still exist it is smart marketing...

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:57 pm

ready123 wrote:
prowlersfish wrote:Why do they say Built By bertram When they are not ?
Was it from the short period that Betram owned Trojan prior to going to Carver. As Betrams still exist it is smart marketing...

Bertram Never Owned Trojan But they both were Owned By The Whittaker corporation Along with Columbia sail Boats

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Smart Marketing ? I agree Thats also why you saw some trojans with bertram/trojan on them . Hell I seen Trojans Like Min( old )call bertram/trojans by some brokers

aaronbocknek · Post by **aaronbocknek** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:00 pm

some trojan history...
TROJAN manufacturer
Description
Trojan Yachts was founded in 1949 when Jim McQueen and Harper Hull purchased Cottrell-Spoore Boat Works, a small Troy, NY, builder of wooden racing boats and runabouts. They moved the operation to Lancaster, PA, where they had access to a local Amish workforce. By 1951 the company was producing some 20 boats a week, but it was after the Korean War that Trojan really took off. The famous Trojan Sea Breeze was introduced in 1954 and generated 800 orders. In the early 1960s the 31-foot Sea Voyager came out; 10,000 of these wooden family cruisers were produced over the next decade. In 1966 Trojan acquired the Shepherd Boat Co., a Canadian builder of wooden motor yachts to 50 feet. By the late 1960s, Trojan was one of the top three inboard boatbuilders in the world. The Whittaker Corp. (which then also owned Bertram Yachts) purchased Trojan in 1969. Trojan went on to introduce a succession of popular fiberglass models over the next two decades including their revolutionary International Series which made its debut in 1981. The boating recession of the early 1990sâ€”together with the short-lived 10 percent luxury taxâ€”resulted in Trojanâ€™s demise in 1992. The assets were sold to Carver Boats in 1993.

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:39 pm

Good info .

ready123 · Post by **ready123** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:19 pm

aaronbocknek wrote:The boating recession of the early 1990sâ€”together with the short-lived 10 percent luxury taxâ€”resulted in Trojanâ€™s demise in 1992. The assets were sold to Carver Boats in 1993.

And now Carver has bit the dust under Genmar.

alexander38 · Post by **alexander38** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:19 am

yes, it is sad to another BOAT co. go away. but yet the bleach bottles are still going so far

RWS · Post by **RWS** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:34 am

from the Trojan Wars article on my Trojan International website

http://sites.google.com/site/trojaninternational/Home

A succession of new owners arrived and departed as if through a revolving door, each with a solution of how to become viable. After Whittaker came Invest Corp., followed by Bertram, who launched the Bertram Trojan International series in the late 1980s. Next came Genmar Holdings, Inc., who paired the Trojan name with Carver, one of Genmar's many boat-producing companies. In 1992, Genmar closed the Lancaster plant and moved the production line to Wisconsin.

k9th · Post by **k9th** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:11 am

Aaron - are you saying Carver is out of business? I hadn't heard that.

ready123 · Post by **ready123** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:33 am

k9th wrote:Aaron - are you saying Carver is out of business? I hadn't heard that.

'Twas I that said that...
Genmar, with approximately 1,500 employees and five manufacturing centers, is the builder of 15 premier brands of recreational boats which include, CarverÂ®, ChampionÂ®, FinCraftÂ®, Four WinnsÂ®, GlastronÂ®, Hydra-SportsÂ®, LarsonÂ®, MarquisÂ®, RangerÂ®, ScarabÂ®, SeaswirlÂ®, StratosÂ®, TriumphÂ®, WellcraftÂ®, and Windsor CraftÂ®. Genmar boats are sold worldwide through its approximately 1,100 dealers.

Back in June they went chap 11...
Brunswick is dropping Maxum also.
Change has just begun... Trojan will not be the only 'dead' boat company in the next year.

k9th · Post by **k9th** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:41 am

Sorry Michael - I saw you quote Aaron and must have had a senior moment.

I hadn't heard all of that.

I live in the town that is home to Thunderbird boats which makes Formula boats. They are really slow but so far no no bankruptcy. Not so for another large brand made here - Fleetwood RV's. They have been in bankruptcy and sold to another company. They are hiring back about 500 people by late fall from what I have read in the local papers.

Thanks for the info on Genmar.

chauzer · Post by **chauzer** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:43 pm

got mine on craigslist wisconsin/appelton!

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:27 pm

never mined

JuiceClark · Post by **JuiceClark** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:48 am

There won't be many boat manufacturers left after this big correction. I heard Riviera closed their plant last month. Times are tough. Y'all made the right decision buying a Trojan rather than getting a 10 year loan to buy a shiney, new piece of depreciating poverty!