RFI TO SEASONED TROJAN OWNERS.......SEA VOYAGER

dwk · Post by **dwk** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:04 pm

Zippy, you make it sound like wood verses glass is really not an issue. This is,however your first wood boat.... How long have you owned her? I ask because I am really interested in your opinions and experience here. Now, I feel the need to disclose that I am a carpenter by trade ... 32 years actually. I have worked on a few boats,topsides mostly, frames, teak, cabinets, veneers etc...I have heard horror stories and here tell that " if you want to buy a job buy a wood hull boat" Now I love my boat, but I really do not relish the thought of having a full time project on my back. I do not want to rule out a wood hull boat, not just yet. I really need continued input on the realities of this issue. Thanks Mate, tell me more..... DW

wowzer52 · Post by **wowzer52** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:32 pm

dwk, I have mentioned that I have restored several wood boats in the past and if I were younger and had more time I would do it again because I do love wood boats, but I don't have time. However loving and working on wood boats really gave me an appreciation for boating that I might not have had if I had never went wood to start with. If you have the time and like working with wood you should do it at least once but make sure you can find a marina that will allow wood boats before you buy. My preference now is fiberglass and there is plenty to do in restoring an older glass boat for someone with limited time.

dwk · Post by **dwk** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:38 am

Wowzer, thanks for your insight! You mention not having the time...If the boat was purchased in very good shape, well taken care of, and you kept on top of it as things progress would there really be a time factor? Or is it the keeping on top of it that IS the time factor... I am making a conscious effort to track down some woody Captains/ Owners and have a detailed conversation with them. I must admit, I am really fond of the romance of a wood vessel. Call me nostalgic I guess..... Marina acceptance as well as insurance are areas I am also investigating. Thanks again, DW.

wowzer52 · Post by **wowzer52** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:16 am

When I say time I refer to my other hobbies and my job. A well maintained wood vessel still needs detailed care. If the boat is in a covered moorage it won't be too bad but you'll still have a list of detailed preventative maintainance to do for the wood every year. Just jump in with both feet and see. You'll either love it or not.

65Trojan · Post by **65Trojan** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:21 pm

On ebay now.....steal

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :MESELX:IT

ready123 · Post by **ready123** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:25 pm

You stole it from the elderly couple

65Trojan · Post by **65Trojan** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:31 pm

No, No, No , I am selling it for them,,,,I sent them 3k for a deposit back in October...I can not get the rest of the money plus shipping to get it to me so they agreed to give me my deposit back if I could help them sell it....no tricks....thats the truth.

1967 seavoyager · Post by **1967 seavoyager** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:52 pm

You guys all act like those "Self Propelled Jacuzzi Tubs" require no maintenance at all. Neglect one of those & you have a bigger job on your hands than a woody. Tupperware boats require as much or even a little more upkeep than a "real" boat. Windows, decks, wiring, delamination, running gear, hull damage- (worse on tupperware boats) etc. All depends on what you like, no more no less.

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:10 pm

1967 seavoyager wrote:You guys all act like those "Self Propelled Jacuzzi Tubs" require no maintenance at all. Neglect one of those & you have a bigger job on your hands than a woody. Tupperware boats require as much or even a little more upkeep than a "real" boat. Windows, decks, wiring, delamination, running gear, hull damage- (worse on tupperware boats) etc. All depends on what you like, no more no less.

I respect your opinion BUT I HAVE REAL BOAT !!!! and You know a wood boat is more up keep , Unless you only have had wood boats you would not know . How is a glass boat more up keep ? and why are the high dollar wood boats that are still made cold molded ? or to put in a way you understand Tupperware coated

I like all boats but don't have time for a wood one .All boats are work just wood ones are more work
but to each out own.

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:14 pm

65Trojan wrote:No, No, No , I am selling it for them,,,,I sent them 3k for a deposit back in October...I can not get the rest of the money plus shipping to get it to me so they agreed to give me my deposit back if I could help them sell it....no tricks....thats the truth.

Your selling it for them because you did not complete you agreement to buy the boat. You should have had the money before agreeing to buy it .

boatman2100 · Post by **boatman2100** » Sat May 01, 2010 12:03 pm

Sea Voyager,

Is it possible for you to take some pics of the 1963 Trojan Sea Skiff at your marina?
The one posted on the marina's website does not enlarge. I e-mailed the marina about this a year or so ago. But they never responded

I truly believe that is my fathers old actual boat. (owned in the 70's)

Thanks in advance,
Chris
boatman2100@aol.com

foofer b · Post by **foofer b** » Sat May 01, 2010 9:54 pm

Seavoyager, you are mistaken. Wooden boats are more work, regardless of condition, age or ethnicity! Just one example is bottom paint. You keep a woodie in water year round down here, you gotta paint twice a year. without the worry of toredo worms, you paint a plastic boat (that is the correct term, not tupperware) once every two years, scraping the running gear every 4-6 months. FRP boats don't dry rot, they don't have to be refastened every 20 years or so, and they don't have to be painted. Stored under cover a good FRP wax job can last 2 years, and waxing is far easier and quicker than sanding and painting hulls , rails and cabin tops. And don't get me started on teak decks. A little clorox and soap is all that's needed on a plastic deck.
So don't cloud the issue. It boils down to time. Is the extra time worth the intrinsic value to an owner of a woodie?
For me the answer is hell no!
The question for DWK is " How do you want to divide up your free time. How much for going out on your boat versus working on your boat."
Because, as the majority of the posters here agree, WOODIES ARE MORE WORK-SOMETIMES LOTS MORE WORK.

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