Shower Sump Question
Moderators: BeaconMarineBob, Moderator, BeaconMarineDon
Shower Sump Question
Quick question for you all. In my 36 Tri the Shower sump failed this fall. After pulling the floor board its not really a sump but more of just a pump. I was just thinking of replacing it with a simple water pump since thats all i see. A 1/2" hose going to it from the drain tray in the shower to a 1" bilge hose out the side. there was an inline filter too.
Thoughts? I was looking at the shower sumps out there and they seem more geared towards a traditional shower drain than this type of suction pump.
Anyone with an older tri have to replace theres, what did you do?
Thoughts? I was looking at the shower sumps out there and they seem more geared towards a traditional shower drain than this type of suction pump.
Anyone with an older tri have to replace theres, what did you do?
Aaron
____________________________
1975 36' Tri Cabin
"Keep it up!"
E-Mail : aweimer@comcast.net
Lake Erie, OH
http://s1099.photobucket.com/albums/g39 ... 20It%20Up/
____________________________
1975 36' Tri Cabin
"Keep it up!"
E-Mail : aweimer@comcast.net
Lake Erie, OH
http://s1099.photobucket.com/albums/g39 ... 20It%20Up/
Hey
For what it's worth my teeny tiny F26 has a shower and it drains right on to the head floor, where there is a channel that runs into a drain hole connected to a water pump. The switch is on the head wall below the shower and it's worked perfectly for over 30 years. I think you could just as easily hook up a water pump with filter and you'd be in business.
For what it's worth my teeny tiny F26 has a shower and it drains right on to the head floor, where there is a channel that runs into a drain hole connected to a water pump. The switch is on the head wall below the shower and it's worked perfectly for over 30 years. I think you could just as easily hook up a water pump with filter and you'd be in business.
Randy P
1977 F-26 HT
"Blue Heron"
1977 F-26 HT
"Blue Heron"
Hello
In my boat the shower sump system was below the floorboard ahead of the aft bed. It was a plastic tray that the tub drained into, but mine was shot. so I took it out and threw it out. I am going to put the same thing in. It should work for you, its in the middle of the walkway in the center floorboard.
Joe
In my boat the shower sump system was below the floorboard ahead of the aft bed. It was a plastic tray that the tub drained into, but mine was shot. so I took it out and threw it out. I am going to put the same thing in. It should work for you, its in the middle of the walkway in the center floorboard.
Joe
Mine is the same as JG. It's actualy a shower sump system - a fully enclosed clear plastic box that has inlet and outlet barbs. It has a bilge pump in it that has the float built in. No need for a filter since the shower drain has a screen over it. These self contained units are awesome but the Problem with these are that if you just take a shower then let the soap scum dry on the float it stops working. So I usualy tell people to run some extra water after finished.
Ron
Ron

When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.
Ronald Reagan
1987 F36 Tri-Cabin
Twin 270 Crusaders
"Special K"
Upper Bay, Chesapeake Bay
http://www.photobucket.com/albums/ff424/rbcool/
Ronald Reagan
1987 F36 Tri-Cabin
Twin 270 Crusaders
"Special K"
Upper Bay, Chesapeake Bay
http://www.photobucket.com/albums/ff424/rbcool/
What do others have in their F32?
I'm not sure if my setup is original.
It works OK, but there is NO float system - just a pull switch above the sink. There is always some water sitting in there - I pour bleach in from time to time.
I'm not sure if my setup is original.
It works OK, but there is NO float system - just a pull switch above the sink. There is always some water sitting in there - I pour bleach in from time to time.
Captain Ross, 2009 Trojan Boater of the Year
"Viva Mahia" F32 Cummins 6BTA diesels,
"Mack Attack" Chaparral 244 Fish, SeaPro 180, McKee 14, Montauk-17

"Viva Mahia" F32 Cummins 6BTA diesels,
"Mack Attack" Chaparral 244 Fish, SeaPro 180, McKee 14, Montauk-17

-
- Moderate User
- Posts: 792
- Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:37 pm
- Location: smiths falls, ontario, canada
My 1977 TriCabin shower drain system is a hose from the floor drain to a pump to a hose and out of the boat. No filter. Has worked for the past 12 years. This is the first time I have even heard of the filter arrangement - where have I been?
My buddy's 2007 44' SeaRay (read expensive) has already had a shower sump fiasco. Give me the simple route anyday.
Hey, is there anything better than a great hot shower on a cool morning? We are one spoiled bunch. Sometimes I just do it - because I can.
Rick
My buddy's 2007 44' SeaRay (read expensive) has already had a shower sump fiasco. Give me the simple route anyday.
Hey, is there anything better than a great hot shower on a cool morning? We are one spoiled bunch. Sometimes I just do it - because I can.
Rick

Trojan 1994 370 Express, 502 Bluewaters
Re: Shower Sump Question
Aaron -aweimer wrote:Quick question for you all. In my 36 Tri the Shower sump failed this fall. After pulling the floor board its not really a sump but more of just a pump. I was just thinking of replacing it with a simple water pump since thats all i see. A 1/2" hose going to it from the drain tray in the shower to a 1" bilge hose out the side. there was an inline filter too.
Thoughts? I was looking at the shower sumps out there and they seem more geared towards a traditional shower drain than this type of suction pump.
Anyone with an older tri have to replace theres, what did you do?
I have the exact same setup. Is the pump completely shot? I believe that you can get rebuild kits for them but I have found they are hard to kill. I have an extra one but the boat is up for the winter and it is inaccessible till spring or I would offer it to you.
Tim
"SeaDog"
1979 36' Tri-Cabin
"SeaDog"
1979 36' Tri-Cabin
- aaronbocknek
- Ultimate User
- Posts: 2080
- Joined: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:19 am
- Location: baltimore, md (alexandria, va and middle river,md) PARKSIDE MARINA
tim. my tri has a similar set up to yours. just in front of the aft bunk there is an access hatch. below, is what looks like a square open pan with a pump and float switch. the tub drain hose goes into this and as the water is drained from the tub/shower, the float engages and the water is pumped out the transom. not a huge fan of the open pan system, but it works and i see no need to spend the 102.00 to upgrade to the enclose system that was standard on models after 1985. as for aaron in chicago.... the tri cabin that my family had used your system. a trough at the lowest end of the shower (facing aft) with a small hole that connected to a sump pump that was operated by a pull switch. never ever had a problem with it in the nearly 40 years we owned the boat. the one thing that dad and i did just before we used it was to fabricate a drain screen that went from one end to the other in the trough. the screen we got at a hardware store and made it into an upside down U and placed it in the trough. dad did not want the pump to clog when my mom and sister took showers. like i said, we never had a problem with it. as for mine, i fabricated a mesh screen using cheese cloth and put it on the end of the drain hose using a hose clamp. that way, if it clogs, all i have to do is remove the cloth, rinse, and replace.
Aaron -aaronbocknek wrote:tim. my tri has a similar set up to yours. just in front of the aft bunk there is an access hatch. below, is what looks like a square open pan with a pump and float switch. the tub drain hose goes into this and as the water is drained from the tub/shower, the float engages and the water is pumped out the transom. not a huge fan of the open pan system, but it works and i see no need to spend the 102.00 to upgrade to the enclose system that was standard on models after 1985. as for aaron in chicago.... the tri cabin that my family had used your system. a trough at the lowest end of the shower (facing aft) with a small hole that connected to a sump pump that was operated by a pull switch. never ever had a problem with it in the nearly 40 years we owned the boat. the one thing that dad and i did just before we used it was to fabricate a drain screen that went from one end to the other in the trough. the screen we got at a hardware store and made it into an upside down U and placed it in the trough. dad did not want the pump to clog when my mom and sister took showers. like i said, we never had a problem with it. as for mine, i fabricated a mesh screen using cheese cloth and put it on the end of the drain hose using a hose clamp. that way, if it clogs, all i have to do is remove the cloth, rinse, and replace.
Mine does not have the float switch and is operated by a lighted rocker switch on the wall under the port side medicine cabinet in the head. Mine also has the in-line filter and I, too, installed a screen in the shower to pre-filter the water going into the pump. It clogged once this summer before installing the screen but cleaning the inline filter solved the problem.
Tim
"SeaDog"
1979 36' Tri-Cabin
"SeaDog"
1979 36' Tri-Cabin
-
- Registered user
- Posts: 3
- Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:07 pm
- Location: Timmonsville, SC
My 77 is set up the same as yours with the pump located under the sink. I think it is original.rossjo wrote:What do others have in their F32?
I'm not sure if my setup is original.
It works OK, but there is NO float system - just a pull switch above the sink. There is always some water sitting in there - I pour bleach in from time to time.
-
- Registered user
- Posts: 3
- Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:07 pm
- Location: Timmonsville, SC