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But if they check out good they can have 5000 hours left in them . A good eng can turn to a bad engine with a poor rebuild . Cheap after market engine parts can lead to a low hour engine life .


Now it it fails the blow by test of course pull it apart and hopefully just rings , maybe pistons rarely do the need boring as they just don't wear out.
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One serious overheat can do a lot of damage to an engine with just 200 hours.

However none of this makes a bit of difference unless someone is serious about moving forward on it.

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The cooling systems on these engine could be up graded as they are early type .

hours are not the real issue But age is and what maintenance has been done over the years .

boat engines break gas or diesel , But you just don't see them wear out on pleasure boats .

When I buy a boat or check one out I could not care about the hours on them . I care about the Condition of them . A real low hour engine is more likely to have issues with stuck rings or valves then a low hour "dock Queen "

RB , you work on boats when is the last time you have pulled a head off a marine Engine ( pleasure boat) and seen a ridge in the clynder ? Never ? stuck valves on low hour engines ? I bet a lot.
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It's simple math

disinterested / inattentive owner + money/budget problems = lack of proper maintenance = coolant not replaces on schedule = zincs not replaced = cooler damage = engine failure.

Let's not forget the corollary (or coronary) of the hidden damage that can be caused by OVERPROPPING

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All very true
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Post by summer storm »

The photo of the engine room just looks beyond bad. I would be surprised if anything in there worked. I guess you could save the engines but you not even allowed to view the boat before bidding, for me that's a big red flag.
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The engine room did look pretty bad - at least 2-3 years since any cleanup/repaint.

The survey did say hours didn't reflect new engines.

$3,750 with 6 hours to go.

For reference, here's the cheapest Stamas 32 I could find ... $20k with 270hp small block gassers, 1987 ... not reall pretty engine room here either. Stamas is a good boat though ...
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Tempting - for the engines alone ... but my wife would kill me if I bought another boat. And I can't pay cash and hide it in the garage.

Did see a 47' Buddy Davis here in Charleston going for $219k - wife liked that a lot ... hummmmmmmmmm
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RB , you work on boats when is the last time you have pulled a head off a marine Engine ( pleasure boat) and seen a ridge in the clynder ? Never ? stuck valves on low hour engines ? I bet a lot.[/quote]


VERY good point Paul. Pulled more than a few last fall, all needed valve work. I tell any customer that'll listen "Take her out and run the hell outta her once a week and you wont need me for major work"
Being a mobil mechanic, my customers get hit with huge travel charges since things like heads are a 2.5 hour round trip to get worked on

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"Did see a 47' Buddy Davis here in Charleston going for $219k - wife liked that a lot ... hummmmmmmmmm"

Considering Buddy Davis died last week, it might very well be a good price! :wink:
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Didn't see that. Sorry to see him go. The Buddy Davis is one of the most beautiful sportfishers of all time!

A toast to Buddy!
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Agree 100% By the way the Stamas sold for $6400.
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