Not a good day..a total downer day

Torcan · Post by **Torcan** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:31 pm

I have been debating on posting this up, I had a pretty bad day today.
Went to see my Trojan, had to take and try my hatch for the Companionway..good news, it fits like a glove.
(Some of you will remember, I posted earlier that it was missing, and needed to make or find one, I found one)

bad news...
I lifted the engine bay compartment and noticed a crack in the port side exhaust manifold. to give you some idea, it is dead centre on the top and about 2 inches long
needless to say, my heart dropped, was almost in tears.

temperatures here have been all over the board, -7C one day, the next +15C, then back to -4C
engine has 848 hrs

I did some research, have choices, weld, or replace.
Don't think I'm going to make launch date

I am really feeling down right now.
Suggestions???

rooferdave · Post by **rooferdave** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:42 pm

dude we can swap out a manifold in under 6 beers!!! 42 more sleeps till launch, do the math!!! NO WORRIES MATE!

Torcan · Post by **Torcan** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:48 pm

rooferdave wrote:dude we can swap out a manifold in under 6 beers!!! 42 more sleeps till launch, do the math!!! NO WORRIES MATE!

Just got to find one now, having problems getting the right part numbers
and what is needed.
here is what I found
http://www.marineparts.com/mpf/mpf284.aspx

Mercruiser 228 HP
need p/n#s for manifold and gaskets
having problems finding the new p/n#s
where I can buy around here and costs, probably looking at $400 ?????
Probably should ask Bob as well, just worried about extra costs in shipping, taxes and duty adding to the price

I can't tell you how much I appreciate having you as a neighbour in the marina. I will probably lean on you for a few pointers. Hell, I'll even buy you a beer store if that's what it takes.

captainmaniac · Post by **captainmaniac** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:53 pm

If Mercruisers, I wouldn't think it would be too hard to match it up.

If Chrysler, try Anthony Keats marine. They might not be the cheapest around, but one of the rare Chrysler Marine dealers still around http://www.anthonykeatsmarine.com/

Big D · Post by **Big D** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:54 pm

Torcan, Rooferdave is right, it's an easy one. Having said that, what caused it, improper winterizing? If so, I'd be checking that engine carefully.

Torcan · Post by **Torcan** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:57 pm

rooferdave wrote:dude we can swap out a manifold in under 6 beers!!! 42 more sleeps till launch, do the math!!! NO WORRIES MATE!

Just got to find one now, having problems getting the right part numbers
and what is needed.
here is what I found
http://www.marineparts.com/mpf/mpf284.aspx

Mercruiser 228 HP
need p/n#s for manifold and gaskets
having problems finding the new p/n#s
where I can buy around here and costs, probably looking at $400 ?????
Probably should ask Bob as well, just worried about extra costs in shipping, taxes and duty adding to the price

I can't tell you how much I appreciate having you as a neighbour in the marina. I will probably lean on you for a few pointers. Hell, I'll even buy you a beer store if that's what it takes.

captainmaniac · Post by **captainmaniac** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:15 pm

If you are looking at marineparts.com, check out marinemanifold.com... essentially the same company, marinemanifold is in BC, so no cross border shipping!

farfrompuken · Post by **farfrompuken** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:20 pm

have bought from these guys ..very helpful[/url]http://bpi.ebasicpower.com/exhaust/merex.php

Big D · Post by **Big D** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:23 pm

Torcan, if you have the manifold I'm thinking of, be careful. They are discontinued and the replacements have a different bolt pattern to which your riser and elbow will not fit. I suspect you have rear mounted elbows. Take a close look at the elbows at the top of the page in the link and compare to yours. I would also take measurements of the footprint and bolt pattern of the new ones and contact the supplier before you commit. Hope yours are different.

The passages of the cooling and exhaust sides can be tested. If the breach is on the outside only, it can be welded.

Torcan · Post by **Torcan** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:35 pm

this is a pic of the motor, doesn't show the crack, but it is dead centre on the left side about 2 inches long

Exhaust Manifold - Log Style - PORT SIDE
Part # 18-1950-1
Fits most GM small blocks with end riser
Replaces Mercruiser #77234A2

sounds right, and looks right???

rooferdave · Post by **rooferdave** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:36 pm

Torcan wrote:
rooferdave wrote:dude we can swap out a manifold in under 6 beers!!! 42 more sleeps till launch, do the math!!! NO WORRIES MATE!
Just got to find one now, having problems getting the right part numbers
and what is needed.
here is what I found
http://www.marineparts.com/mpf/mpf284.aspx

Mercruiser 228 HP
need p/n#s for manifold and gaskets
having problems finding the new p/n#s
where I can buy around here and costs, probably looking at $400 ?????
Probably should ask Bob as well, just worried about extra costs in shipping, taxes and duty adding to the price

I can't tell you how much I appreciate having you as a neighbour in the marina. I will probably lean on you for a few pointers. Hell, I'll even buy you a beer store if that's what it takes.

Martin up the street will weld em up no probs... if not John from bellville will, if he can't do it that day the shop next to 7 star tai will do it while you wait

Bill next door to us prob has the gaskets in stock (cool dude) if you have 318's they have some used ones there

anyhow the swans are back at the club, (I was there today) even though those drunk knob fishermen killed the patriarch

Torcan · Post by **Torcan** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:40 pm

rooferdave wrote: anyhow the swans are back at the club, (I was there today) even though those drunk knob fishermen killed the patriarch

I think we are also the ONLY club around that has a Beaver Dam and Beavers as well, saw it the other day walking on the ice!!!!!!!!

rooferdave · Post by **rooferdave** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:40 pm

upon reflection Bill next door will get you the parts inside of a week usually and if they are wrong he will refund your dough!

Big D · Post by **Big D** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:14 pm

Torcan, do you have a profile (side) shot of the elbow?

Just a caution, as mentioned earlier, don't just weld and assume all is good. You must test prior to install or you'll be making engine repairs as well in the summer!

k9th · Post by **k9th** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:24 am

I guess I agree with Big D - what caused it to crack and is there any other damage buried down there?