Anybody know where she is?
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As expected, I'm glad the Quebecers stepped up to the plate. Just goes to show that most boaters everywhere are a special breed and willing to lend a helping hand in spite of language and cultural barriers.
She was a 1969 36 ft wooden beauty with big blue 440s that we'll miss forever.
And thanks to the gang, 2012 Trojan Boater Of The Year
And thanks to the gang, 2012 Trojan Boater Of The Year
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MargAnnIII
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Hello folks ...
Well, am sorry to report that other than one kind soul (who I believe owns the marina where one of our members dock near Port Dover Ont,?) I am "dead in the water, sorry for the pun!
Admittedly, I have been away with my daughter these past couple of weeks so not as much time to focus on the search, but I have also run dry of ideas ... knew that finding my Dad's boat was a long shot at best ... did see a photo online of one very derilect hull for sale in QC in need of SO much repair it was barely recognizable ... made me sad to think that could be her
Perhaps getting back to business next week will inspire me with new ideas!
Regardless, it is nice to hear from everyone, to read familiar posts, and do appreciate the support and suggestions ... will someday boat again!
thanks all ...
Well, am sorry to report that other than one kind soul (who I believe owns the marina where one of our members dock near Port Dover Ont,?) I am "dead in the water, sorry for the pun!
Admittedly, I have been away with my daughter these past couple of weeks so not as much time to focus on the search, but I have also run dry of ideas ... knew that finding my Dad's boat was a long shot at best ... did see a photo online of one very derilect hull for sale in QC in need of SO much repair it was barely recognizable ... made me sad to think that could be her
Perhaps getting back to business next week will inspire me with new ideas!
Regardless, it is nice to hear from everyone, to read familiar posts, and do appreciate the support and suggestions ... will someday boat again!
thanks all ...
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boatman2100
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Could this be her?
In Canada
In Canada
64 34' Sea Voyager Flybridge (sold)
56 16' Ski Bee
77 F-30 Hardtop
http://s808.photobucket.com/home/boatman2100/index
56 16' Ski Bee
77 F-30 Hardtop
http://s808.photobucket.com/home/boatman2100/index
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boatman2100
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64 34' Sea Voyager Flybridge (sold)
56 16' Ski Bee
77 F-30 Hardtop
http://s808.photobucket.com/home/boatman2100/index
56 16' Ski Bee
77 F-30 Hardtop
http://s808.photobucket.com/home/boatman2100/index
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MargAnnIII
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Hi boatman2100 ...
I did look at this ad ... found it early on ... I honestly do not believe it would be possible as this boat, Eleuthera - has so many structural differences from my Dad's.
If you look at all of the photos listed individually below, ie. the fly helm photo in particular, the cockpit / steering are centre located - my Dad's was a righty!
I know that in the time since my Dad's has sold that of course the new owners could have made changes, updates, etc. However there are SO many differences in these photos (the sedan doors, the front railing - ours was conventional - this boat has a walk-out, the steering linkage from the sedan up to the fly would have to be completely redone, etc.) that in this short time, I cannot see this having taken place, with this much evidence of degradation in the same amount of time.
This poor soul has been left out to rot, and for her I feel very sorry - the road back to the dock will be a long one, if anybody bothers at all!!!
Thank you for taking the time to look and sending along the link .... I appreciate everyone keeping watch as I continue to search ... and I will continue!
Best to all ... and enjoying the new thread about "woody's" .... wish I had one of my own to boast about ...
I did look at this ad ... found it early on ... I honestly do not believe it would be possible as this boat, Eleuthera - has so many structural differences from my Dad's.
If you look at all of the photos listed individually below, ie. the fly helm photo in particular, the cockpit / steering are centre located - my Dad's was a righty!
I know that in the time since my Dad's has sold that of course the new owners could have made changes, updates, etc. However there are SO many differences in these photos (the sedan doors, the front railing - ours was conventional - this boat has a walk-out, the steering linkage from the sedan up to the fly would have to be completely redone, etc.) that in this short time, I cannot see this having taken place, with this much evidence of degradation in the same amount of time.
This poor soul has been left out to rot, and for her I feel very sorry - the road back to the dock will be a long one, if anybody bothers at all!!!
Thank you for taking the time to look and sending along the link .... I appreciate everyone keeping watch as I continue to search ... and I will continue!
Best to all ... and enjoying the new thread about "woody's" .... wish I had one of my own to boast about ...
Tracking down the 36
Great stories, MargAnn. Wherever she is, I'm sure echoes of kids laughter still resound in her hull.
I have some advice, on a couple of levels. I sincerely hope she is one of the few woodies that survive. I will caution you though, prepare yourself for the worst case... if she changed hands a decade ago for 5,000, she may have been in "project" condition. That's when these old girls are their most vulnerable, as many are purchased by cash-strapped folks who start with enthusiasm but soon run out of time/money/patience to see them back to the water. Unfortunately, chances are that if and when you find her she may be ugly.
My advice? Unless you are tracking her down to buy her, let her shine in your memory. I've found alot of truth in the saying "You can never go home..."
That said, here's how I would go about finding her...
1) Dig through the family files, there may be a bill of sale or an invoice from Ivy Lea marina with some buyer info.
2) Contact the selling marina, chances are there will be some long-standing employee who may just remember the boat/transaction. Better yet, they may have a record of the sale even 10 years later.
3) Ask the marina who was hauling boats in the area at the time. You may luck out and find the company/operator that moved it from Ivy Lea.
4) The Freedom Of Information Act specifies that you can apply to the Ontario Gov't for the transaction information, maybe specifically for a copy of the bill of sale. Being a family member gives you a shot at getting the information (as it pertains directly to immediate family of the previous owner). If the applicant has no direct tie to the principals in the transaction then they don't give out the info. Even if they deny you access, you can legally appeal that decision. Be prepared to explain who you are and why you want the information.
5) If you recall the boat name, google it. Long shot, but you never know.
6) If you have a friend in law enforcement, say in your example an OPP officer, have them run the old registration number if you have that info anywhere (example of old Ontario boat registration number format- 55 E 55555)
7) check out Bone Yard Boats online, she may crop up if she's a project boat. Fascinating site anyway.
Good luck. If you get any leads she may have come up Georgian Bay way, I'll be glad to help any way I can.
James
I have some advice, on a couple of levels. I sincerely hope she is one of the few woodies that survive. I will caution you though, prepare yourself for the worst case... if she changed hands a decade ago for 5,000, she may have been in "project" condition. That's when these old girls are their most vulnerable, as many are purchased by cash-strapped folks who start with enthusiasm but soon run out of time/money/patience to see them back to the water. Unfortunately, chances are that if and when you find her she may be ugly.
My advice? Unless you are tracking her down to buy her, let her shine in your memory. I've found alot of truth in the saying "You can never go home..."
That said, here's how I would go about finding her...
1) Dig through the family files, there may be a bill of sale or an invoice from Ivy Lea marina with some buyer info.
2) Contact the selling marina, chances are there will be some long-standing employee who may just remember the boat/transaction. Better yet, they may have a record of the sale even 10 years later.
3) Ask the marina who was hauling boats in the area at the time. You may luck out and find the company/operator that moved it from Ivy Lea.
4) The Freedom Of Information Act specifies that you can apply to the Ontario Gov't for the transaction information, maybe specifically for a copy of the bill of sale. Being a family member gives you a shot at getting the information (as it pertains directly to immediate family of the previous owner). If the applicant has no direct tie to the principals in the transaction then they don't give out the info. Even if they deny you access, you can legally appeal that decision. Be prepared to explain who you are and why you want the information.
5) If you recall the boat name, google it. Long shot, but you never know.
6) If you have a friend in law enforcement, say in your example an OPP officer, have them run the old registration number if you have that info anywhere (example of old Ontario boat registration number format- 55 E 55555)
7) check out Bone Yard Boats online, she may crop up if she's a project boat. Fascinating site anyway.
Good luck. If you get any leads she may have come up Georgian Bay way, I'll be glad to help any way I can.
James
"That'll buff out." :/
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MargAnnIII
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James ... you are a star!!!
Thanks so much for your comments and suggestions.
And I agree ... it may be well that I must let sleeping dogs lay ... for my efforts so far have turned up no leads ...
I have tried the Marina - was sold in the past 5 years - no back files turned over at point of sale - new owner did make one suggestion which I followed with no response
I have googled the name and the 21E (Kingston) registration number - so far no answers.
WISH I had a "government official" type friend, but not so far .... will keep searching.
Also sent out a "batch" email as was suggested earlier in the post to a huge list of Ontario and Quebec marina's who did both storage and sales ... again, nothing back. Several did respond, but of the viable leads, not my Dad's boat.
And so ... she may be out there enjoying a new life, or she may be sitting in a stockyard ... sad either way, but I have my memories!
Unfortunately, the contents of family records went to another family member with whom I am not in communication ...
I will follow your other suggestions ... and again, thanks so much for responding ...
Best to you!
Thanks so much for your comments and suggestions.
And I agree ... it may be well that I must let sleeping dogs lay ... for my efforts so far have turned up no leads ...
I have tried the Marina - was sold in the past 5 years - no back files turned over at point of sale - new owner did make one suggestion which I followed with no response
I have googled the name and the 21E (Kingston) registration number - so far no answers.
WISH I had a "government official" type friend, but not so far .... will keep searching.
Also sent out a "batch" email as was suggested earlier in the post to a huge list of Ontario and Quebec marina's who did both storage and sales ... again, nothing back. Several did respond, but of the viable leads, not my Dad's boat.
And so ... she may be out there enjoying a new life, or she may be sitting in a stockyard ... sad either way, but I have my memories!
Unfortunately, the contents of family records went to another family member with whom I am not in communication ...
I will follow your other suggestions ... and again, thanks so much for responding ...
Best to you!
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MargAnnIII
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My husband found this ad for me yesterday ..... a little far from home, however heart warming just the same:
http://vancouver.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehic ... Z271057827
Not meaning to post a "for sale" ad within another thread, however when you see the condition of the outside of this one, it gives one hope. In almost a year of searching, I have had absolutely no luck tracking my Dad's boat - and sad to say the gentleman who was my Dad's last mechanic passed away this winter - another connection lost!
The exterior photos of this boat look fairly good - as they are shot; would be interesting to see interior photos as well as know the "running" condition of the rest of the mechanicals, engine hours, etc., etc. - as we all know too well, hull and decks of these boats are only the tip of the iceberg!
Still enjoy the forum ...
http://vancouver.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehic ... Z271057827
Not meaning to post a "for sale" ad within another thread, however when you see the condition of the outside of this one, it gives one hope. In almost a year of searching, I have had absolutely no luck tracking my Dad's boat - and sad to say the gentleman who was my Dad's last mechanic passed away this winter - another connection lost!
The exterior photos of this boat look fairly good - as they are shot; would be interesting to see interior photos as well as know the "running" condition of the rest of the mechanicals, engine hours, etc., etc. - as we all know too well, hull and decks of these boats are only the tip of the iceberg!
Still enjoy the forum ...
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This is interesting. I too was looking for a boat several years ago. A 1960 Richardson. I wanted to see if I could find a picture of the one mhy dad had. It was a great boat.
I hope you succeed in finding the boat. I would love to hear that you did.
I hope you succeed in finding the boat. I would love to hear that you did.
Fishing Chesapeake Bay and Off Shore Virginia.
1988 11 meter Trojan International 450 HP 671TI Detroit Diesels
1988 11 meter Trojan International 450 HP 671TI Detroit Diesels
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MargAnnIII
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My husband has now started looking about and found these 2 - incredibly different, the first in Simcoe I had already noted last year and is apparently still available:
http://www.antiqueboatcanada.com/ab_lis ... atId=27334
The second is MUCH more fun, but none-the-less still not ours:
http://www.ladyben.com/SearchResultsFul ... selID=3567
It still amazes and surprises me the degree to which these vessels have either managed to endure, or the capacity to restore, for there has to atleast be enough original boat to build back from? It is also heartwarming to note that there are so so many still out there, obviously and painstakingly loved and adored by their owners as was my Dad's!
Appreciate the patience of the Forum Moderators for not closing this thread or sending it to the "listings and advertising" section - I am truly not attempting to sell one of these on behalf of another owner!
Just searching is all - I know one day I may "bump" into the old gal!
http://www.antiqueboatcanada.com/ab_lis ... atId=27334
The second is MUCH more fun, but none-the-less still not ours:
http://www.ladyben.com/SearchResultsFul ... selID=3567
It still amazes and surprises me the degree to which these vessels have either managed to endure, or the capacity to restore, for there has to atleast be enough original boat to build back from? It is also heartwarming to note that there are so so many still out there, obviously and painstakingly loved and adored by their owners as was my Dad's!
Appreciate the patience of the Forum Moderators for not closing this thread or sending it to the "listings and advertising" section - I am truly not attempting to sell one of these on behalf of another owner!
Just searching is all - I know one day I may "bump" into the old gal!
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MargAnnIII
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Oh so interesting ... wish I had more time to spend here!
The Monomatic head thread is very informative. As with everyone else, when these boats were outfitted originally with small toilets, tanks etc. the world was NOT environmentally correct. Dad had one of the monomatic heads installed as that was at the time, the ONLY option available in Kingston Ontario!!! Oddly enough, the first we had seen these types of installations were at the marina in EXPO 1967 in Montreal where they outfitted the outhouses! Not the port-o-potties of this generation.
Sorry - back to the topic - the links above are both interesting. The second is a complete re-fit - and quite a spectacular one at that! However the price is beyond my, and many others range of option for sure. But, as everyone knows - these are endeavours of dollars, physical effort, time and love and so perhaps the cost: irreplaceable!
The Monomatic head thread is very informative. As with everyone else, when these boats were outfitted originally with small toilets, tanks etc. the world was NOT environmentally correct. Dad had one of the monomatic heads installed as that was at the time, the ONLY option available in Kingston Ontario!!! Oddly enough, the first we had seen these types of installations were at the marina in EXPO 1967 in Montreal where they outfitted the outhouses! Not the port-o-potties of this generation.
Sorry - back to the topic - the links above are both interesting. The second is a complete re-fit - and quite a spectacular one at that! However the price is beyond my, and many others range of option for sure. But, as everyone knows - these are endeavours of dollars, physical effort, time and love and so perhaps the cost: irreplaceable!
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MargAnnIII
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Re: Anybody know where she is? - Happy Update!!!
So folks, it has been a while - a long long while!
However I had to come back today, because much to my complete amazement, I have found her at long last!
And, she is still floating!!!
Going now to figure out how to load the photos I took yesterday ... will be back as soon as I figure that out!!!
So so so excited!
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Re: Anybody know where she is?
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As we owned her!
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As she is today!
As we owned her!
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As she is today!