Here is a nice one in Florida. Looks clean, but might be priced a little high. Whaddaya'll think?
http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/boa/2787679601.html
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Clean well maintained; I'd keep it if I was you!
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Captain Blast Off wrote:Clean well maintained; I'd keep it if I was you!
Judging by the underwhelming response to my ad, I don't think I will have a choice . Unless of course... I wanted to practically give it away to some low-baller jerk spouting some nonsense about " in this economy"!
Plus, the more pics I take of her the more I think she is a beauty and I'd probably miss her and regret having sold her.
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Paul wrote:Uh oh. I'm guessing that you decided to upgrade your electrical system with an F-32.
That did cross my mind.
PS: I still hate you and your perfectly laid out fuse panel!
PPS: May a pack of rabid rats chew the insulation off all your wiring!!
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The only guy to email me said "he'd go 5 or 6K. …the boat market has opened up out there and your asking price is higher than I can go. Many deals right now…".
I would make an artificial reef out of her before I let it go that low. I emailed him back...
"Yes, there are lots of boat deals on the market, most of them in "great" to "excellent" shape, most of which, in my experience, turn out to be real dogs in need of considerable repair, refurbishment, or replacement. In fact, last week I looked at one that was advertised as "COMPLETELY RE-DONE LAST WINTER. ALL NEW EVERTHING , TO MUCH TO LIST . THIS BOAT NEEDS NOTHING BUT WATER" (http://panamacity.craigslist.org/boa/2731023424.html). What it needed was work everywhere one looked.
When I was searching for my present boat, I looked at a lot of those in the 4-6k range (2008) and quickly realized (after seeing many of them in person) that if this is what you get for 4-6k then I wanted to buy a 6-8k boat!
I guess all I am saying is that I encourage you to at least come and see the remarkable condition my boat is in and the value it represents, before you write it off as overpriced. Then you will have a better reference to judge other deals "in this economy". Thanks for your consideration, Roy."
He said he'd look at it the next day but never called.
So what do you guys think is a fair price? (Oh I almost forgot to put) In this economy!
I would make an artificial reef out of her before I let it go that low. I emailed him back...
"Yes, there are lots of boat deals on the market, most of them in "great" to "excellent" shape, most of which, in my experience, turn out to be real dogs in need of considerable repair, refurbishment, or replacement. In fact, last week I looked at one that was advertised as "COMPLETELY RE-DONE LAST WINTER. ALL NEW EVERTHING , TO MUCH TO LIST . THIS BOAT NEEDS NOTHING BUT WATER" (http://panamacity.craigslist.org/boa/2731023424.html). What it needed was work everywhere one looked.
When I was searching for my present boat, I looked at a lot of those in the 4-6k range (2008) and quickly realized (after seeing many of them in person) that if this is what you get for 4-6k then I wanted to buy a 6-8k boat!
I guess all I am saying is that I encourage you to at least come and see the remarkable condition my boat is in and the value it represents, before you write it off as overpriced. Then you will have a better reference to judge other deals "in this economy". Thanks for your consideration, Roy."
He said he'd look at it the next day but never called.
So what do you guys think is a fair price? (Oh I almost forgot to put) In this economy!
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You won't be getting a call from me since I'll go up if I ever get the chance (plus it would cost me another couple of grand to get it up here)... but I DO like and appreciate your gumption to dig in your heels.
I have made comments on the forum from time to time bitching about people giving boats away for peanuts and devaluing everyone else's in the process, and make no apologies for my perspective.
The desperation give-aways do affect pricing, but not VALUE... If someone is desperate or stupid enough to sell their 36' for $3K, there's a pretty good chance they haven't spent too much looking after it for a while either... and they probably cheaped out on anything they have done. Their boats are probably worth less than the average, but the peanuts they ask for or get on Craigslist or eBay don't reflect their values. Then a shopper sees the eBay pricing and decides they aren't going to bother following up on one advertised elsewhere for $40K...
But the reality is that if they want a REAL boat, a SAFE boat, one whose systems work, something that doesn't need any tlc from day 1, the $40K boat is exactly the one they should be looking at. And if they can't afford $40K to buy a boat, plus the money to maintain it in a safe condition, maybe they should be looking at 16' runabouts instead...
.... end of rant...
As long as you can hold out for the true VALUE, sooner or later someone will recognize that and buy. When I sold my old Liberator it took 2 years, but I got something like 90-95% of my asking price (which was about 95% of what I paid for it 7 years earlier). The guy who bought it recognized that he could buy a Lib for less, but THAT BOAT was WORTH THAT MUCH money.
I have made comments on the forum from time to time bitching about people giving boats away for peanuts and devaluing everyone else's in the process, and make no apologies for my perspective.
The desperation give-aways do affect pricing, but not VALUE... If someone is desperate or stupid enough to sell their 36' for $3K, there's a pretty good chance they haven't spent too much looking after it for a while either... and they probably cheaped out on anything they have done. Their boats are probably worth less than the average, but the peanuts they ask for or get on Craigslist or eBay don't reflect their values. Then a shopper sees the eBay pricing and decides they aren't going to bother following up on one advertised elsewhere for $40K...
But the reality is that if they want a REAL boat, a SAFE boat, one whose systems work, something that doesn't need any tlc from day 1, the $40K boat is exactly the one they should be looking at. And if they can't afford $40K to buy a boat, plus the money to maintain it in a safe condition, maybe they should be looking at 16' runabouts instead...
.... end of rant...
As long as you can hold out for the true VALUE, sooner or later someone will recognize that and buy. When I sold my old Liberator it took 2 years, but I got something like 90-95% of my asking price (which was about 95% of what I paid for it 7 years earlier). The guy who bought it recognized that he could buy a Lib for less, but THAT BOAT was WORTH THAT MUCH money.
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Oh yeah, and value... based on quick survey of 25's and 26's in Yachtworld, looking at your pics, comparing condition etc... I would say a 'fair price' for the boat itself would probably be in the $8K-12K range. You get extra points over others for the hard top and overall condition, and all the recent upgrades / updates.
If it was mine, I would try to hold firm for at least $9K or $10K. If you are selling the trailer with it, I would say another $2-$3K for the trailer (but am guessing at that since I don't really know what those are going for these days)
If you want what it's worth, that's what you want.
If you want to sell it before summer (ie what it's worth "in this economy"), you will have to make yourself happy with $6-7K for everything.
If it was mine, I would try to hold firm for at least $9K or $10K. If you are selling the trailer with it, I would say another $2-$3K for the trailer (but am guessing at that since I don't really know what those are going for these days)
If you want what it's worth, that's what you want.
If you want to sell it before summer (ie what it's worth "in this economy"), you will have to make yourself happy with $6-7K for everything.
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You said it very well. The "deals" out there are probably poorly maintained boats in fair to poor condition needing lots of "tlc".captainmaniac wrote:
If it was mine, I would try to hold firm for at least $9K or $10K.
If you want to sell it before summer (ie what it's worth "in this economy"), you will have to make yourself happy with $6-7K for everything.
I am including the trailer, and might be persuaded to throw in the dinghy. Maybe I am asking a bit much, but it is such a nice boat it would not upset me at all to keep her. Besides, I have gotten used to 8 knots.
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i love it. i'll tell you this, if i had not bought the tri cabin i'd be heading your way in a heart beat. this is a cute boat and it looks like i could actually not have to beg phil to take her out. something i could use and maintain on my own. believe it or not, i'm actually thinking of 'downsizing'. i'm in such a quandary over this, i'm beside myself.
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I think your price is fair, your boat is in good shape and has alot to offer. It would be difficult to replace. I would say hold your ground and good luck
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I thought I was going to lose mine during Irene this year, I will never forget the feeling I got when I left the marina thinking that was the last time I was going to see her in the shape she was in. I never realized how much I would miss the boat if it were gone.foofer b wrote: Plus, the more pics I take of her the more I think she is a beauty and I'd probably miss her and regret having sold her.
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''I thought I was going to lose mine during Irene this year, I will never forget the feeling I got when I left the marina thinking that was the last time I was going to see her in the shape she was in. I never realized how much I would miss the boat if it were gone. ''
Matt
i hear you on that one matt. no one knows what a wreck i was getting her ready (the tri cabin) but mike kulp, my neighbor on my port side and member here. he knows first hand the trepidation i felt leaving the marina that saturday evening as the rain and wind started. that night, when the storm winds were going full force along with the driving rain i must have swilled malox by the gallon. okay, insurance can cover some things. but nothing can make up for the love we all feel for our boats. thank god maccabee kept me busy with his curiosity of the storm. like when a blizzard finishes and it's time to go down and clear off the decks and check the lines, i breathed a huge sigh of relief when i saw that she made it okay and with minimal damage to her canvas.... a few stitch pops and that was it. a drip in the cabin near one of the salon windows too, but nothing major or structural.
aaron
Matt
i hear you on that one matt. no one knows what a wreck i was getting her ready (the tri cabin) but mike kulp, my neighbor on my port side and member here. he knows first hand the trepidation i felt leaving the marina that saturday evening as the rain and wind started. that night, when the storm winds were going full force along with the driving rain i must have swilled malox by the gallon. okay, insurance can cover some things. but nothing can make up for the love we all feel for our boats. thank god maccabee kept me busy with his curiosity of the storm. like when a blizzard finishes and it's time to go down and clear off the decks and check the lines, i breathed a huge sigh of relief when i saw that she made it okay and with minimal damage to her canvas.... a few stitch pops and that was it. a drip in the cabin near one of the salon windows too, but nothing major or structural.
aaron