Confused "as usual" A few questions...

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Confused "as usual" A few questions...

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First what is this Intake/outtake hole in the top right corner. PO cut the hose about mid deck. Im assuming its for the crapper/head becuse I have no pump out up top next to the head, there are no cut hoses coming through the helm wall under the deck though. I find it hard to beleave that my head pump out may be at the waterline, seem a long reach to hook it up at a dock. This cant be for the fresh water fill because I already found the hole in the deck for that. Maybe fuel over flow? but out into the ocean??? seems odd.
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Next ?? other than my deck wash down hose all my clean water needs for toilet and sinks are on the starboard side, why is the fresh water tank on the port side and the batteries on the starboard? seems senceless to run extra hoses if you dont have to. It over works the pump to. Im asking because Im drawing new plans that may add a genny and heat/ac system, which ever way I choose to go, its coming. Is this a weight thing? I will deffenitaly even out all weight but I want to make sure that I dont move certian things if they are designed that way for a safty reason. I am also thinking of putting my 3 batteries under the locker door at the transom wall. It looks like storage area to me but I have not seen any one else do this. It will be seal properly, but the longer wiring may be a concern or not cost effective, but it sure looks like a perfect spot for it. The entire rear fish deck is being designed to be 75% hatch doors, meaning there will be No where you cant easily get to. It will all be sealed The best way it possibly can, loved and always kept up untill I pass away!
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Maybe a fuel tank vent. ( looks like mine)
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The top one looks like the normal Trojan fuel tank overflow/vent. So, if the hose was cut off, where is your overflow dumping???

Tank on one side and batteries on the other are probably for weight distribution issues and/or where space is available. When you are looking at weight distribution when installing new items, remember to think in 3 dimensions... it's not just port/starboard, but also forward/aft, and height that are important (higher center of gravity increases instability and rolling).
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prowlersfish wrote:Maybe a fuel tank vent. ( looks like mine)
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and mine also, I had gas spill out when it was overfilled at the marina
so ya it's a fuel tank overflow/vent
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OK thanks, the tank vent was screwed to a support board for the deck, NICE!!! Thanks Capt M that makes alot of sence. Im just looking over a few things. Everything has to measured and weighed and thought out carefully. I dont want to add alot but what I am thinking is not very light stuff. I like Tonys idea for the FedEX truck heaters but I really want Power under way for the kids and small air compressor for floats yada yada etc.. Genny just seems a must. MikeKulp offered me a heat/ac system today for free so I am trying learn all of these options. It has to be done while the boat is gutted IMO. Heat is a must but this boat just isnt big enough for some of this equipment IMO.
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If you confirm that it is a fuel tank vent, you need to ensure there is a spark arrest screen just before the opening. You should be able to see it, it's only about half inch or so in. If this is missing, buy a new fitting, these are still available.
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Yes as soon as it comes thro the wall it has 1" to 1-1/4" fitting, then is hard piped down toward the fuel tank and then rubber hose about 3' cut in half. Fuel vent makes sence now but way to much hose making me think it went somewhere else
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Find the vent hose on the top of the tank and follow it to see where it leeds or is that the one that's lying in the bilge? If so that's probably the fitting if there is nothing else to go to it. The only other thing I have to offer is that by your description, the line goes directly down from the fitting. The correct way for the line to travel is up from the fitting, then a turn coming back down and always downhill to the tank. That way, should any water enter the fitting, it will not end up in your tank. The line must be downhill all the way so that if water does somehow get in there or your tank gets overfilled, water or fuel won't sit in a valley and prevent the tank from venting.
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Post by jefflaw35 »

Yes that's it, exactly as u explained. I will show you a picture tomorrow, they clearly cut the original line and just screwed an open line to a 2x4 under the deck. Smart people huh?!!! Man can imagine what could have happened if something ever went wrong
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Man, if you're talking fuel tank and not water tank vent, that's just way wrong man. No wonder people get blowed up :shock: All I can say is it's a good thing you're finding this stuff man.
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Oh it's it... I took fuel tank out last week. Vent line I had to unscrew from a 2x4. Just regular open hose. What I was asking about tonight was just laying on the hull floor. Didn't know what it was till I wanted the pictured flange removed tonight. These guys had no business owning a boat, that is for sure!!!! :shock:
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fuel vent hose

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Yes that is the fuel vent if it has a screen in it as you look from the outside. Make sure you use the proper type fuel hose when you hook it back up to your tank.
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Post by lawyerdave71 »

Speaking of Fuel - Man Gas is getting high in Illinois - $4.20 now for the car and u know what that means for boats - a lot more!!
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Post by jefflaw35 »

i agree with you twice dave!!
working hard to pour money in the endless hole that floats!!!!
hopefully the gas issue will get better. I wont be done this boat for a year or 2. probly have to sell it or not use it much if gas stays this way and our paychecks dont get better, that makes me sad, but im gonna keep pushing forward. Life isnt always fair
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