Boat Sold, Footitis strikes again

summer storm · Post by **summer storm** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:06 pm

formula?

Aaron, why are all of your posts bold?

Torcan · Post by **Torcan** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:18 pm

Thought you guys would have had it by now
especially with the Youtube link
As you can see by the pics.. she has been very well maintained for a boat that is 26 years old
and all that wood makes her very classy IMHO

I realize, it is not a Trojan,
but this one will suit my needs much better.
I'll let you know what the make is later, or if someone gets it first.

captainmaniac · Post by **captainmaniac** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:57 pm

Thar be a Thundercraft !

rooferdave · Post by **rooferdave** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:10 pm

ummm, is it a silverton?

Torcan · Post by **Torcan** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:10 pm

captainmaniac wrote:Thar be a Thundercraft !

Yup

And please don't rag on me, I realize there are some die-hard Trojan owners here, and you have my utmost respect.
But the deal, and the shape this boat is in, was just too good to pass up.
And someday in the future, when opportunity strikes, I may just own a Trojan again. Albeit, much bigger.

Big D · Post by **Big D** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:16 pm

Congrats on the new purchase, and best of luck with her. I have one piece of advice Torcan, the key to outdrive longevity is maintenance, and you will have more maintenance with them than you did with the inboard, much more. Change that gear lube (Merc High Performance only (green)) at the end of every season and inspect its condition, along with all of its other hardware. You`re welcome to PM me about the Alpha if you want. Don`t get me wrong here, Alphas are good drives, but all drives are really good money makers if you don`t look after them, sure got me through some tough times

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:17 pm

captainmaniac wrote:Thar be a Thundercraft !

I knew that

Very nice Boat and if you look at the History of the company . It kind of mirrors Trojan at the end .

I agree with all Big D said

Torcan · Post by **Torcan** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:19 pm

Thanks Big D, I really appreciate the heads up. Will put that on my new checklist.
They are new, and I definitely want to keep them running like new for as long as I can.
Besides...I've got RooferDave to walk over to as well. I am sure he is going to keep me in line, or smack me up the side of my head if needed.

prowlersfish wrote:
captainmaniac wrote:Thar be a Thundercraft !

I knew that

Very nice Boat and if you look at the History of the company . It kind of mirrors Trojan at the end .

I agree with all Big D said

Yes it does prowlerfish

prowlersfish · Post by **prowlersfish** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:26 pm

It was Thundercraft by Cadorette at one time Like Trojan by Carver .

captainmaniac · Post by **captainmaniac** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:32 pm

Congrats on your purchase! I may be at Bluffers / CBYC area the weekend of Aug 11th/12th - If I make it there, I was going to try to look you up. Gotta find out if CBYC has reciprocal privileges with MBYC (Macassa Bay).

Now that you figured out how to handle the single screw inboard, you get to start all over and learn how to handle the twin I/Os. You will have a lot more space in it and it will feel a bit more 'modern' than your Trojan, but remember there is not much difference in the weight. I assume you have twin sterndrive in it - that will help with handling in confined spaces - but the bow may be more likely to take off in a cross wind.

You have no keel, and 25-30% of your weight is way back near the transom, in the blocks and outdrives. Not that your Trojan had much of a keel, but it's weight was more evenly distributed along the length of the hull so it would tend to blow sideways... on the Thundercraft the stern will hold position more and the bow will want to blow downwind.

If I may, here is video review of a 290 Magnum (from a different model year)...

http://www.boattest.ca/boat-test/expres ... m-290.html

Torcan · Post by **Torcan** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:37 pm

captainmaniac wrote:Congrats on your purchase! I may be at Bluffers / CBYC area the weekend of Aug 11th/12th - If I make it there, I was going to try to look you up. Gotta find out if CBYC has reciprocal privileges with MBYC (Macassa Bay).

Now that you figured out how to handle the single screw inboard, you get to start all over and learn how to handle the twin I/Os. You will have a lot more space in it and it will feel a bit more 'modern' than your Trojan, but remember there is not much difference in the weight. I assume you have twin sterndrive in it - that will help with handling in confined spaces - but the bow may be more likely to take off in a cross wind.

You have no keel, and 25-30% of your weight is way back near the transom, in the blocks and outdrives. Not that your Trojan had much of a keel, but it's weight was more evenly distributed along the length of the hull so it would tend to blow sideways... on the Thundercraft the stern will hold position more and the bow will want to blow downwind.

If I may, here is video review of a 290 Magnum (from a different model year)...

http://www.boattest.ca/boat-test/expres ... m-290.html

Thanks for the info and the links
and YES we have a reciprical with your club.
2 nights free
check out our recip list on main page
http://www.cbyc.ca
so enjoy the trip and I will definitely get out to see you, along with rooferdave and the 6 other Trojans we have presently at the club along with 2x 40 or is it 44 footers, can't remember

captainmaniac · Post by **captainmaniac** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:13 pm

Big D wrote:I have one piece of advice Torcan, the key to outdrive longevity is maintenance, and you will have more maintenance with them than you did with the inboard, much more. Change that gear lube (Merc High Performance only (green)) at the end of every season and inspect its condition, along with all of its other hardware.

I had Alpha's on my Liberator 261 (hooked up to a pair of 350 Magnums). Granted they were never 'old' (boat was 6 years old when I bought it, and I owned it for another 8 years from that), but I never had any problems with them. I did check the lube level and condition annually, but didn't change it every year. I think it was every 2-3 years I would drain and refill. I don't know... maybe I was a fool, but it worked for me. I didn't ignore the drives, but I also didn't really need to spend gobs to maintain them. Maybe it depends a lot on how hard you push them.

Correction - only ever had 1 problem... but that was because of the rock I hit at 45mph that took the bottom end off of one of the drives and the skeg off the other (and not even a scratch on the boat bottom! Think I was a luck s**t that day).... Don't care what drives you are running - any drive would have been buggered after that.

Keep an eye on the condition of your bellows (the flexible rubber seal between the turning / tilting drive and its frame). If that ever cracks open, you sink real fast. Never let it get in rough shape or dry out.

Also - if you haven't run an I/O configuration before - in addition to the trim tab controls, there may be two different kinds of drive trim controls on this boat, and there is a BIG difference between them. One set is for basic trim, and controls a range of motion in the drives like with trim tabs - to swing them up or down a little bit to help the boat run better.

You use 'drive trim' in conjunction with tabs to get the best running angle and efficiency out of the boat. Generally, use the tabs to control the boat, and trim the drives out as much as you can without cavitating for speed and performance. OR for really slow speed running (ie if you are forced to run just at or just under planning speed, when the bow is most high), you might have both tabs AND drives fully down to try to bring the bow down.

The other set is more like a tilt control (or it might be called 'trailer trim') - this one lets you lift the drives completely up (to the point that they are almost out of the water). Do NOT use the 'trailer trim' switch unless (1) you are at DEAD IDLE SPEED ONLY, and (2) you are in shallow enough water that you really need to (ie beaching it) or (3) engines are stopped, and you are actually pulling it out on a trailer.

If you tilting the drives up any more than the limit switch for the 'trim' controls let you, you put a LOT of stress on the universal joint in the top end of the drive. Revving that beyond idle is great way to destroy the U joint.

aaronbocknek · Post by **aaronbocknek** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:09 am

summer storm wrote:formula?

Aaron, why are all of your posts bold?

because i have an autoimmune disorder that effects my eyes from time to time. when i type it makes it easier for me to do so when it's bold. it's not shouting, it's just easier for me to see when the post is put up. apologies if it offends anyone.

aaronbocknek · Post by **aaronbocknek** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:11 am

looking at her profile and her fit and finish on the interior and exterior, she is a dead ringer for a searay sundancer. mazel tov on the new purchase, may she get you and your loved ones from here and there and back again in safety and comfort.

297Elegante · Post by **297Elegante** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:45 am

That is incredible how much like a Sundancer she looks. Looks to be in excellent shape also!