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Nancy wrote:
Sweet! Yeah, the aft bilge was always dry. But I wonder where the rainwater is going. Oh well, I never argue with success.

She like Lake George - no question!
Most of the rainwater is going overboard now. I broke one of my cardinal rules and re-engineered the lazerette hatch drains and integrated them with the cockpit scuppers all that crap goes out the transom now in a repurposed thru-hull that was already there. I'm sure you know the one I mean.

She is loving Lake George. Did I tell you I managed to crack 3600 revs this fall? I didn't hold it there long, but she was cooking along real good there for a few minutes just shy of 3800 on both sides. I had room to go still on the Port but wasn't into making big arcs to the right at that speed. I'm gonna run those 305's another year with the new electronic distributors and I'm slapping some Edelbrock 1409's on this spring.
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Commissionpoint wrote:I broke one of my cardinal rules and re-engineered the lazerette hatch drains and integrated them with the cockpit scuppers all that crap goes out the transom now in a repurposed thru-hull that was already there. I'm sure you know the one I mean.
I know exactly what you're talking about. That project was on my list for 14 years. I even had it partially put together for a while. Glad you finished it!
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Nancy wrote:I know exactly what you're talking about. That project was on my list for 14 years. I even had it partially put together for a while. Glad you finished it!
I know you know, because it was your parts that I found that gave me the idea in the first place. ;)
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I couldn't remember if we'd yanked those off in the interest of tidiness or left them in place as a clue. :roll:
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Cmount wrote:
rossjo wrote:Which picture is the area under the stateroom floor?

I'm think that 2 bilge pumps might be the trick up there now - using a small pump that would fit lower into the hollow keel area and a bigger pump (for emergencies) above that. Both automatic (floats, not the electronic automatic that click on periodically).

Thoughts?
I just did exactly this using the Whale pump as the small "in keel pump" I m planning on cutting another access point in the engine room to let the water move through the keel whenever possible. I am hopping to get the smell out. I dont have an issue with water in the bilge...as long as I can keep it fresh! I will send pictures next weekend.
Small Whale automatic pump? Looking forward to the pictures.
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This pump?

Whale SuperSub Smart 650 Bilge Pump
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http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?pat ... id=1207040

Does Whale's Patented Electric Field Sensor Technology. Whale's Electric Field Sensor Technology just kick in periodically like the Rule pumps?
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rossjo wrote:This pump?

Whale SuperSub Smart 650 Bilge Pump
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http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?pat ... id=1207040

Does Whale's Patented Electric Field Sensor Technology. Whale's Electric Field Sensor Technology just kick in periodically like the Rule pumps?
That pump is on my list. It seems perfect for the forward bilge.
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Commissionpoint wrote:I had to actually sit on a stringer with a stopwatch and time the stuffing box drips because I thought they were too tight. They aren't. They are PERFECT.
I use Gortex dripless packing and have no drips.... they do not run hot.
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Anyone know of a bilge pump that has a V style pickup?
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Larrys78 wrote:Anyone know of a bilge pump that has a V style pickup?
If I'm understanding what you're asking and why, keep in mind that any "V" shaped pickup will start sucking air at the upper end of the V and not pump water after that point. It will not empty the water all the way from the bottom of the V unless the opening is at the bottom only but any V bilge strainers/pickups that I've seen draw from along the sides. You're better off with a diaphram pump and a hose into the keel if that's what you're asking about. Having said that, auto bilge switches tend to shut off with a certain amount of water still in the bilge. Using the "Manual" switch periodically will remove the rest of the water.
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double post. Hate when that happens :?
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Not sure how to post a picture of the pump set up if there is still interest...how are the pictures posted right in the message?[/img]
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Download the pic to photo bucket then on photo bucket page click to the right where it says img you will see a quick copy conformation the just paste it in your post in the forum. Once you get the hang of it, its quite simple.
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Cmount wrote:
rossjo wrote:Which picture is the area under the stateroom floor?

I'm think that 2 bilge pumps might be the trick up there now - using a small pump that would fit lower into the hollow keel area and a bigger pump (for emergencies) above that. Both automatic (floats, not the electronic automatic that click on periodically).

Thoughts?
I just did exactly this using the Whale pump as the small "in keel pump" I m planning on cutting another access point in the engine room to let the water move through the keel whenever possible. I am hopping to get the smell out. I dont have an issue with water in the bilge...as long as I can keep it fresh! I will send pictures next weekend.
Cmount - upload your pictures to some storage on the Internet (Photobucket for example). Then create a link to them, and paste it in your reply with:

[ IMG] picture1.jpg [ /IMG]

around it with the paces removed.

Like to see you setup ...
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